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deadatdusk
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#8066370 - 02/24/08 09:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: deadatdusk]
#8066429 - 02/24/08 09:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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3 inch sub 1/2 inch caseing So 4 inches just to be safe sometimes its higher then you think.
then you want 8 inches from hole to hole for good fae so 12 inches then another 2above that to the lid.
so 14 inches tall with 8 inches between holes .
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#8066485 - 02/24/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
monstermitch said:
 Following my monotub tek, I took two of these tubs and made them into monotubs. These things are great, no plexi glass needed, the lid is clear(ish)!
   I marked and drilled four 2" holes in each side. The bottom holes are 5.5 inches from the bottom of the tub. The top holes are 8 inches above the bottom ones.

You will want 4-5" of substrate with a .5" casing layer.
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I drilled my holes prior and then found out too late that I couldn't get as much poo as I would have liked... My holes were now a full inch too high. I drilled two more at substrate hight when I was applying the casing layer... I would have preferred not having to do that because plastic in the sub is no good, but it didn't hurt anything so whatever.
I would say try to do the math and find your hight, add .5" for safety. If worst comes to worst, you can always drill some more holes.
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#8066922 - 02/24/08 11:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I appreciate all your responses, but I honestly don't know if I'm going to end up with 3 1/2 inches w/ casing or 5 inches w/ casing when all is said and done. I have about 10 pints colonized w/ rye that are 3/4 full and 10lbs of Hpoo in a medium sized tub. I think I will try to drill at 4 inches and cross my fingers once I fill it with sub and case.
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: deadatdusk]
#8067149 - 02/25/08 12:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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deadatdusk
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: SFsorrow]
#8085003 - 02/29/08 05:40 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the calculator. I have my Hpoo/straw mix measured in lbs, how am I to know what that should come to in quarts? I don't have a scale in which I could measure, and don't want to taint the hpoo by opening it before spawning to it. According to the calculator for a 1:10 ratio I should use about 2 quarts, and for a 1:4 I should use about 4.2 quarts. In total, my substrate should be about 21 quarts w/ spawn to reach a substrate depth of 4 inches.
My tub is 64 quarts, at L of 22.5 inches, and a width of 13.5 inches.
I have 10 lbs of hpoo/straw mix, and 9 pints or (4.5 quarts) of colonized rye to work with.
Question: Does anyone one know what 1lb of Hpoo/straw mix would come to approx in quart measurements? I know they are two different kinds of measures, I am wondering what the equivalent would be.
Generally should 10lbs of hpoo/straw mix plus 4.5 quarts of spawn be enough for a 64 qt tub?
Sorry if I'm sounding redundant, math was always my weak point.
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: deadatdusk]
#8085012 - 02/29/08 05:47 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You really need to work in volume. 1 pound of dry hpoo has a much higher volume than 1 pound of wet hpoo...
How about using displacement to measure the volume of your hpoo? I presume it's in a bag thats water proof?
1. Get a tub big enough to hold the bag 2. Fill tub with water so the bag is covered 3. Mark the water level 4. Remove bag 5. Fill tub up to mark counting how much water it takes 6. Hey presto you have the volume of your sub.
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Edited by shaggydogman (02/29/08 05:50 AM)
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: shaggydogman]
#8086303 - 02/29/08 02:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Genius, I never would've thought of that! Now, let's see if this works.
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: deadatdusk]
#8086521 - 02/29/08 02:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I measured by displacement looks like I have 9 1/2 quarts of sub, 4.5 of spawn for a grand total of 14 quarts of sub. That means I'm 7 quarts short of what I need for 4 inches of sub. 2/3rds of 4 inches means my sub plus casing is only going to come up to about 3 inches. Should I nix this tub and buy a smaller one, or go with the 3 inches?
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: deadatdusk]
#8088727 - 03/01/08 03:56 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol, I think the expression you need is "EUREKA!", now go run naked through the streets!!! 
I think that the sub may be slighty compressed under water so it may fluff up a bit. I'd take a guess at adding 10% to the volume you measured.
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Edited by shaggydogman (03/01/08 03:58 AM)
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: shaggydogman]
#8088883 - 03/01/08 07:18 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would still come to be way below what's needed even with 10 percent added. I got 14.95 quarts, plus the spawn I should have barely over three inches. I calculated if I get a tub around 16 x 12 i should be able to get the substrate depth i'm looking for (4-5 inches) unless i calculated wrong.
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Re: Monotub hole parameters [Re: deadatdusk]
#8088893 - 03/01/08 07:25 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I used mini-tubs with a roaster tray inside so I have an inch of perlite and the pan is two inches shorter than the tub so the humidity is great. My holes are an inch above the perlite but 2 inches below the top of the pan is...where the casing would be. Figure that will help with CO2 since I assume it is heavier then air. I had a bucket colonizing and I tried to light my lighter and as soon as I got within 4 inches the light would go out from too high CO2 and not enough oxygen....so it makes sens to me... cant wait to see what comes out of em, the myc is almost ready to be cased.
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