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bridgesii question
    #8065684 - 02/24/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm about to start ~2000 seeds and i was wondering how long it will be before i am forced to re pot them. i want to be sure i have enough money saved up for just this occasion because I'm sure ill be spending a few hundred on just pots and soil.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: LSDevin]
    #8065746 - 02/24/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on the pot size, number of seedlings to a pot, and growing conditions. Very variable. They can crowd eachother for a good while and be ok though.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: LSDevin]
    #8065755 - 02/24/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

forgot to mention im going to be useing a peat pellet greenhouse minus the peat pellets and filling with cactus soil and caseing with sifted cactus soil and sand. the will be packed pretty tight. probably about 1mm apart.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: LSDevin]
    #8065812 - 02/24/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

One tray? 2000 is WAY too much for one tray.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: LSDevin]
    #8065845 - 02/24/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You can easily wait 8 months to a year. A question; if you are planting 2000 seeds, do you have some major green house space? Brigesii's grow fast and big!! I've learned from alot of experience NOT to try and transplant too soon. Cactus are pretty damn tough when it comes to everything except transplanting too young. Do a little selective thinning of the seedlings too. And remember when you do transplant... LOTS of organic material, perlite and a little limestone gravel on top to provide trace minerals And plenty of water during growing season. "superthrive" with your organic (fish emulsion)fertilizer is a miracle!! Brigesii's are very cool, good luck.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: tobydoo]
    #8065893 - 02/24/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

haha yeah i think ill cut it down to 500. no i live on a ranch in texas and i am planning on starting a small farm from wich i will start a vendor of my verry own to pass on to my children. i only baught 2000 because i know of a reliable source to get them dirt cheap and the min amount of money you are allowed to spend it $20. i spent $30 on 2000 seeds. looks like ill have about 1500 to trade in about 10 days, if im allowed in the marketplace by then. the tray is 2ftx1ft.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: LSDevin]
    #8065950 - 02/24/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

With bridgesii's or P. Torch I usually sprinkle out about 150- 200 seeds (as evenly as humanly possible)in a 18" x 2' tray. And again, thin for the healtiest ones. Also, during the seedling stage, use distilled water if you can and don't fertilize until they're at least 1". And then only 1/2 strength.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: tobydoo]
    #8066075 - 02/24/08 08:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i decided I'm just going to go with instinct and use a salt shaker like i do with poppies. if they get too thick ill thin them out. either way I'm only loading up the shaker with 500 seeds.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: tobydoo]
    #8066077 - 02/24/08 08:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Anyway, with 2000 seeds, You've got alot of trial and error - practice material!


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: tobydoo]
    #8066078 - 02/24/08 08:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

heh this puts mine to shame, i just started about 75 seeds in 4 land-o-lakes butter tubs

what kind of germination rate should i expect? (gaging how much space ill need for adults)

will some flouros be fine for adults?


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8066455 - 02/24/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

best to let them go dormant in winter.MOD EDIT: PLEASE DONT POST NON SPONSOR WEB SITES!!has EXCELLENT info on growing. Just don't try and contact vern unless you've got something real important to show him or tell him.....ultimate surly guy!! But great grower


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: tobydoo]
    #8066645 - 02/24/08 10:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think you misunderstand, theyre not going to go outside, im going to have them in my indoor garden year round to enjoy


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8066714 - 02/24/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well then you'll need to have a little more patience. Cactus is extremely resilient once you get em past that seedling stage. Get some good floro tubes (hydro harrys.com)...better yet, some metal halides or high pressure sodiums ...at least 400 watts. Halides are better for the grow cycle (16-18 hours a day). And again, save yourself some $$ on electricity and let them go dormant in winter. Good south window light and only water 2 or 3 times (careful of too much water rot in winter)it's good for the cactus to rest too.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: tobydoo]
    #8066774 - 02/24/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

heres a pic of my garden

(those are the bridgesii seeds in the round containers under the 2ft light)
what im planning on doing is getting another couple $9 shop lights and attaching them to the bottom of this table, where my cacti will most likely be, as im growing some climbers and reserving space on the top for salvia

using 3 gal pots ill plant the adults 3 per pot


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8066844 - 02/24/08 10:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how can one acclimate seedlings to a little more sun once ready to transplant?


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8066845 - 02/24/08 10:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

be very careful of "burning" the seedlings. Those 2 ft lights are too close. Your bigger 4' lights are more than enough for now. Contrary to popular belief, P. Torch, bridgesii, lophophora all like strong but diffuse light...and heat. you get the nice blue green color i.e a healthy plant from the proper amount of shade. you will sure as shit kill your small ones with too much strong light. Also, 3 gallon pots for 3 plants is no where near large enough. ...More like a 7 gallon terra cotta pot per plant for a nice big - healthy plant. bigger if possible!! Bridgesii's get 8-10' tall.


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Re: bridgesii question [Re: tobydoo]
    #8066877 - 02/24/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Alot of moving them in and out of direct Sun for a couple weeks. Again Sacred cactus has tons of grow info. but I do know that too much light is absolutely deadly for young plants but cactus is pretty forgiving and if you catch them in time you can almost always save them.


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