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Colbadol
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...until you realize that theyre coming here for a better life at YOUR expense.
how the fuck is it at my expense? If a Mexican steals your job, you had a shit job to begin with, or didn't work hard enough. I used to do construction, and they'd be there before the sun came up, and stayed until sundown. Thats work ethic.
how about the education they want and infrastructure they use? that requires taxes that YOU pay and they do not. it's not about jobs. it's about taxes and social security. dey tuk ur jeorbs is an argument beaten to the ground. pick something fresh and relevant next time you assume my stance on a particular issue, please.
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SicGeist
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Re: Man hunting [Re: Gratos]
#8066355 - 02/24/08 09:11 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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P.S. You did some dumb shit construction work BTW because any decent job in the industry takes quite a bit of math.
Bullshit. My own father is a construction worker, and I've met plenty of people in the industry - usually in a doublewide full of screaming white-trash spawnlings, or a crackhouse.
I'm not saying there aren't intelligent construction workers. But they don't have to be brilliant.
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Broooodward
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Re: Man hunting [Re: Colbadol]
#8066365 - 02/24/08 09:13 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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...until you realize that theyre coming here for a better life at YOUR expense.
how the fuck is it at my expense? If a Mexican steals your job, you had a shit job to begin with, or didn't work hard enough. I used to do construction, and they'd be there before the sun came up, and stayed until sundown. Thats work ethic.
how about the education they want and infrastructure they use? that requires taxes that YOU pay and they do not. it's not about jobs. it's about taxes and social security. dey tuk ur jeorbs is an argument beaten to the ground. pick something fresh and relevant next time you assume my position, please.
I wouldn't count on social security if i were you, don't count on the govt for anything imho.
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DragonChaser
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Re: Man hunting [Re: Colbadol]
#8066368 - 02/24/08 09:13 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Sorry, I didn't realize thats what you're referring to. When I think illegal immigrant, I think someone who comes, works for a couple years, and bounces. Not someone who comes in, reproduces, puts their kids in the education system, drains social security, etc. In that instance, I will agree. But my previous argument to whoever I last replied to still stands.
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Colbadol
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but this is the real issue here. Look at California. MILLIONS of people are advocating for illegal immigrants right to education and drivers licenses...and that is utter bullcrap. I hate the system, but i still play the game. America is a game, play or go home. I totally agree with you too, however, about Mexican work ethic. I have worked LOTS of service jobs that were HARD fucking work, and these guys were almost motivational. I have a lot of friends that i can visit in central america because of our work relationship. i cant wait to travel. honduras, here i come.
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Broooodward said: People who compalian about illegal immigrants need to get a reality check. Illegals literally make this country run.
no they dont, llegal immigrants just do the jobs Americans won't do for the same low wages that illegal immigrants will take, recently the trend has been for illegals to refuse to work until they're being paid more
in california they've had a difficult time getting these illegals to pick the fruit they're supposedly picking why arent we using convict labor, it's virtually free, it's what they've begun doing in colorado
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they are not planning an invasion, they are merely trying to take care of themselves, just like what everyone of us should be trying to do.
do you take care of yourself by abandoning your family, moving to a foriegn country and setting up house there?
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If your worried about crime, get a gun and become proficient in its use. If your worried about your job, work harder and advance your career.
I have many guns, I work 10 hrs a day forming steel, I come home and work 4 hours on the farm each day, weekends tend to be more, summer time has more daylight, at my day job I have to run illegals out of the concrete pipe back over to the place they're supposed to be working, at my day job in one year my pay has doubled, I recieved 9 raises in that time... guess what, I lost it to an illegal from guatamala that would do it for less than $7/hr
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If illegals cost you more money in taxes, spend less money on bs and try to fuck the government when you file.
why not just go to prison for tax evasion, that'll show them, or why not just send the people back home and allow americans to work a job at a fair wage, hell we might even pull the economy back up if we did that.
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Stop bitching and take care of yourself.
would that include shooting the illegals as they try to cross the border?
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Gratos
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...until you realize that theyre coming here for a better life at YOUR expense.
how the fuck is it at my expense? If a Mexican steals your job, you had a shit job to begin with, or didn't work hard enough. I used to do construction, and they'd be there before the sun came up, and stayed until sundown. Thats work ethic.
Until an illegal learns how to do YOUR job and will do it cheaper then you will. Illegal labor is actually the problem not illegal immigrants. I find it strange how people are willing to defend those who erode their own foundation of life. All part of international equilibrium I guess .
P.S. You did some dumb shit construction work BTW because any decent job in the industry takes quite a bit of math.
Show me an illegal with a masters in math. Then we can talk. And BTW? I did some dumb shit construction work because it was 15/hr under the table, I got to be outside all day and get tan and work out. It was a summer job. Once I get my degree (masters in math, which I'm working towards), I'll never have to worry about an illegal stealing my job.
Edited to make it clearer to morons what I meant
Sorry, I didnt mean to hit a nerve there buddy.
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Show me an illegal with a masters in math.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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I did some dumb shit construction work because it was 15/hr under the table, I got to be outside all day and get tan and work out.
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Once I get my degree (masters in math, which I'm working towards), I'll never have to worry about an illegal stealing my job.
Hmm, so you still work job/jobs that are on the chopping blocks for illegals? I dont understand.
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Great, good for you
What was the point of your post calling me a moron again? For some reason I cannot un-embed this response.
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Broooodward
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I have many guns, I work 10 hrs a day forming steel, I come home and work 4 hours on the farm each day, weekends tend to be more, summer time has more daylight, at my day job I have to run illegals out of the concrete pipe back over to the place they're supposed to be working, at my day job in one year my pay has doubled, I recieved 9 raises in that time... guess what, I lost it to an illegal from guatamala that would do it for less than $7/hr
i think you have different personal experiences with illegals than i do, but i also don't think killing anyone is necessary. I 'm not sure but i think if you got rid of every illegal, and then every unemployed person took their job, you wouldn't be able to fill all the jobs they left. It sucks that you lost your job.:(
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Gratos
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Re: Man hunting [Re: SicGeist]
#8066433 - 02/24/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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What I said was any DECENT job in the industry. The lower paying jobs are now ALL occupied by mexicans in my area. No they dont have to be brilliant but any DECENT construction job takes quite a bit of math.
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DragonChaser
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Re: Man hunting [Re: Gratos]
#8066436 - 02/24/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Hmm, so you still work job/jobs that are on the chopping blocks for illegals? I dont understand.
What was the point of your post calling me a moron again? For some reason I cannot un-embed this response.
There were way too many quotes in that... Actually I don't work currently, I just go to school. The reason I was doing jobs that are on the chopping block for illegals was because I have dreads and my uncle offered me a job doing construction with him, I'm not ready to cut my hair and start a career. Plus, its nice learning how to fix things around your house and build a home yourself. Good skill set to have. And I didn't really mean it when I said you were a moron, I was angry with my own grammar.
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Broooodward
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There were way too many quotes in that... Actually I don't work currently, I just go to school. The reason I was doing jobs that are on the chopping block for illegals was because I have dreads and my uncle offered me a job doing construction with him, I'm not ready to cut my hair and start a career. Plus, its nice learning how to fix things around your house and build a home yourself. Good skill set to have. And I didn't really mean it when I said you were a moron, I was angry with my own grammar.
Cool, i work contruction with my uncle too. We mostly build decks, what did you do?
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Broooodward said: i think you have different personal experiences with illegals than i do, but i also don't think killing anyone is necessary.
I grew up in the fastest growing county in the US, it held that title for almost 25 years, they went from a population of about 7000 to more than 500k in that time about 1/3 of the population is hispanic now, the houses that were being built in the last 20 years are being condemned, there were many that couldnt pass inspections, some of these homes were priced at more than $1million
my uncle went to bid a job at a shopping center expansion, he did masonry work, I was learning the trade, he was under bid by a hispanic crew by just a few thousand dollars, he went back a few weeks later to see the progress, noticed things didnt look right and found the superintendent, told the man about the problem, the walls werent tied right and he said the wall will collapse, the super said it wouldnt be an issue
less than a week later 2 walls fell killing 3 people, I've heard for years before and after about how great mexicans are at laying brick and by god there are some that are the best in the business but the majority are just cheap unskilled labor.
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I'm not sure but i think if you got rid of every illegal, and then every unemployed person took their job, you wouldn't be able to fill all the jobs they left.
we probably couldnt fill all the jobs but a couple of poultry plants in Ga were raided by immigration last year, the illegals were being paid minimum wage, with no workers the plants were facing closure, the ran an ad in the local paper, boosted the wage to something competitive for the market and they were flooded with applicants, more than they had jobs for
did the wage increase also inflate the prices? no, the market will not support it, would you buy chicken at $15/lb?
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It sucks that you lost your job.:(
if i were dependent on my job as my only source of income, I'd be devastated, I have 2 kids to support and a mother that's on disability, everything I have is paid for so all I have is taxes and monthly bills, 90% of america is not in the situation I'm in and the numbers that are losing everything is increasing
think about what you're hearing on the radio about government bail outs on mortgages, why do you think so many are defaulting on these loans, why are so many cars being repossessed, if there were 27 million more jobs available maybe more people would be keeping their homes and cars, maybe employers wuold be paying better wages
and for the record, I dont honestly advocate violence against anyone unless it's truly a matter of survival there's far too much killing as it is
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Ferris
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This has to be one of the worst threads I've ever seen in the pub, hands down.
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...until you realize that theyre coming here for a better life at YOUR expense.
how the fuck is it at my expense? If a Mexican steals your job, you had a shit job to begin with, or didn't work hard enough. I used to do construction, and they'd be there before the sun came up, and stayed until sundown. Thats work ethic.
It's at your expense because as previously mentioned, these illegals don't pay taxes. They use our roads, our water treatment facilities, our sewage facilities, etc (all things YOU are paying in part for). Also, many Mexicans come here to work to get money to send to their families in Mexico. How is that not a drain on the economy when money is leaving the country?
I am in total favor of posting armed guards along the border and giving them authorization to shoot and kill those crossing the border. I think we should give them fair warning, sort of a, "Yeah, you know that whole sneaking over here when we told you not to shit you've been pulling? Yeah, that's not gonna fly anymore." I have nothing against Mexicans, but we have immigration laws for a reason. Any illegals found in the country, ESPECIALLY those committing crimes should be deported immediately. Business owners who employ illegals should also be heavily penalized. America's economy is going to shit and we need to do something about it.
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Re: Man hunting [Re: Ferris]
#8066597 - 02/24/08 10:07 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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I figured the nazi execution thread would have taken that title
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indica
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Re: Man hunting [Re: Ferris]
#8066612 - 02/24/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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I say bring it the fuck on, it's about time we cull some of these humans. They've been spreading like wild fire and absolutely destryoing the natural habitat and flushing out animals that are native to the area.
A single human colony can destroy an area of rainforest the size of LA in a single day, and also consume enough water to empty entire reservoirs.
These creatures need to be controlled before they destroy the entire planet
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SicGeist
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Re: Man hunting [Re: indica]
#8066619 - 02/24/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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You first.
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indica
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Re: Man hunting [Re: SicGeist]
#8066623 - 02/24/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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i'm game
i've been waiting for circumstance to kill me because I'm too chicken shit to do it myself
Edited by indica (02/24/08 10:14 PM)
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A short story about MAN HUNTING:
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Prisoner#1
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circularvortex said: those committing crimes should be deported immediately.
um... no, if it's shoplifting or something, sure, more serious crimes need to be used for sending a message
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