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    #8062970 - 02/24/08 01:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

at what point, does it become a "problem"? ive been drinking a lot more recently, especially since ive quit smoking pot. its starting to become a daily ritual for me... as was pot back in the day. why do i feel the need to not be sober? why am i afraid of being sober? just some thoughts... ive been doubting my actions as of late. im fucking hammered drunk right now, again, and am once again finding myself in a peculiar mood. im not even sure what the point of this post is... but there is definitely something that needs to be said, and discussed... i see myself becoming quite the alcoholic... and i dont like it. but i like to drink. this is my dilemma.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8062975 - 02/24/08 01:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Drinking is never a problem.


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Re: drinking [Re: jewunit]
    #8062984 - 02/24/08 01:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

there is definitely a problem here.

if its not my drinking, its whats making me drink... getting down to the core of issues has always been tough for me. i dunno. shit just aint right, im not happy with what im doing right now. yet at the same time, its the only thing keeping me sane.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8062986 - 02/24/08 01:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

non-alcoholics don't even question whether they have a problem. Its not even an issue for them. If your worried about it, its a problem.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8062990 - 02/24/08 01:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, you may have your personal issues, that's not for me to talk about. I am quite drunk at the moment also. I like to drink, whatever. I know plenty of people who already call me an alcoholic (I'm only 20), but fuck them, I drink far less often than a lot of my friends smoke weed. Who's the one with the problem? Surely not me, I can survive without a drink, they seem to fall apart when they don't get to toke for a day.


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Re: drinking [Re: jewunit]
    #8063002 - 02/24/08 01:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I recycled over 370 beer bottles today! These were accrued by two, me and the gf, in less than a month. I doubt YOU have a problem, yet anyway . . .


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Re: drinking [Re: jewunit]
    #8063004 - 02/24/08 01:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i feel as if i may be skating a line here, ready to fall back to one side or the other. i like to drink, its fun, its sociable, its relaxing and amusing. yet, once i get home, away from the bar or party or what ever... i get in this mood. i dont know how to explain it, but i feel shitty. this is the part that scares me, because this is the part that makes me go buy more beer... and drink it alone. dwell in my head, about all the irrelevant issues in my life, and just plain down and out. i keep telling myself i should just give it up, as there really is no need for me to drink... yet, here i am. drinking as i type this post. i just need someone to slap the shit oput of me or something.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063012 - 02/24/08 01:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You an I may be in the same boat, except I trick myself into thinking this mood is a positive thing. Until I actually get in a funk and depressed about drinking I'm gonna keep doing it regularly. Right now I actually find it therapeutic, more often than not at least.


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Re: drinking [Re: jewunit]
    #8063022 - 02/24/08 01:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

y did u quit weed
maybe u should quit alchy for the same reason?
unless its a drug test
try getting addicted to reading or exercising
thats the best way, but not easy for most


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Re: drinking [Re: Coaster]
    #8063030 - 02/24/08 01:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I quit weed because I don't enjoy it. I enjoy drinking so I don't plan on quitting just yet.


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Re: drinking [Re: jewunit]
    #8063036 - 02/24/08 01:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

man, i like you. you are a cool mother fucker. and i hope my current state is not something to come your direction in the future. i am a depressed outraged angry frustrated sad mother fucker at the moment. and i havent the clue as to where to point my finger. i just dont know, and that bothers me. the alcohol helps... to a point. after that, it becomes a burden. im in between states at the moment, and am scared as to which direction i may fall.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063038 - 02/24/08 01:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think the only way to find out what the problem is, is to be sober until you start to feel the urge to drink. Once you start to feel the urge, start to think why you are feeling this urge, it should be most obvious at the moment when you feel the need to drink. Is it that your bored? Trying to block something out? or a chemical addiction like with nicotine withdrawal? Once you know what it is find another way to satisfy the urge besides drinking or taking some other form of drug.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063040 - 02/24/08 01:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

start smoking pot again


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Re: drinking [Re: Coaster]
    #8063043 - 02/24/08 01:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i quit weed due to job reasons. i got my cdl, i drive a truck and (not so)random tests are the norm. i like my job, and would like to keep it. what i need to do is learn how to be happy sober, i think. works out well on paper, but application is a bit harder than i thought it would be...


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063054 - 02/24/08 01:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ya, i know alot of guys that drive trucks and they get random'd all the time because its regulated pretty strict.

but they find way around it lol.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063055 - 02/24/08 01:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No judgments--hell, I have no place to speak from.

I think it's just something you deal with when you get very tired of the cycle.  :shrug:  It's you.  Your choice.  It's me, and my choice.  Fuck up good and hard while you're drunk.  I think this is the "Moment of Clarity" heavy drinkers talk about.  Might just be a bad night, though.  You make it what you want it to be.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063062 - 02/24/08 01:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

its only a problem if its affecting other people negatively...if not, drink on.


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Re: drinking [Re: GnuBobo]
    #8063065 - 02/24/08 01:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ive had that moment of clarity lol, i drink maybe once a month to get drunk.


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Re: drinking [Re: aDoS]
    #8063078 - 02/24/08 01:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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its only a problem if its affecting other people negatively...if not, drink on.




so if its affecting only me negatively, drink on?


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063083 - 02/24/08 01:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

its your individual right to be unhealthy


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063088 - 02/24/08 02:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you feel like it's affecting you (or anyone else) negatively, you need to step back and look at what might be causing it. What's making you unhappy? Are you trying to escape from something? Do you feel like you're in a rut? If you're only happy when you're not sober, it doesn't sound to me like you're happy at all.

I dunno man, I hope you're able to work this out.:hug:


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Re: drinking [Re: aDoS]
    #8063090 - 02/24/08 02:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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its your individual right to be unhealthy




i see your logic...


yet, i may be too drunk to argue my points in a manner that get my point across clearly. so i will leave it at that. this history of self destructive behaviors are really getting to me... yet the fact that they are present only escalates these behaviors. it really is becoming quite the vicious cycle.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063094 - 02/24/08 02:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

im pretty fucked up right now as well


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Re: drinking [Re: mayfly]
    #8063102 - 02/24/08 02:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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mayfly said:
If you're only happy when you're not sober, it doesn't sound to me like you're happy at all.





gft

i am not. i could go on for pages as to why i am not happy... thats another post, another time. but thank you for being the one to bring it up in this thread. its given me a new train of thought to go with, which may lead to something more productive...


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063137 - 02/24/08 02:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yo.
Dont even start thinking that.
People in the ages behind us used to drink to get drunk.
There was no such thing called "Pussy Liquor"; it was all whiskey.
Beating women,
Canning beets
drunk fo sho.
You probably have a problem.
But who cares man, we all got em.
My dad's a drinker, every day gets up and starts to drink a bottle of Jaquelin's rum till he passes out again.
Thats just how it goes man.
I envision you withering away and dissipating back into the dust.
It's all good.

*Finishes glass of homemade wine*

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Re: drinking [Re: lighttheway]
    #8063150 - 02/24/08 02:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

group hug!


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Re: drinking [Re: antiPock]
    #8063153 - 02/24/08 02:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

im not that kind of a drunk... :smirk:


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063173 - 02/24/08 02:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well if you don't change what do you think is going to happen? :shrug: if you grew up in my family you'd realize how fucked up alcoholism really is


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Re: drinking [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #8063204 - 02/24/08 02:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if i dont change? or if i continue with this pattern and get worse?

ill probably end up a dead beat homeless son of a bitch begging for change on the street corner. worst case scenario, of coarse. i dont know man, seriously. i think im going to pass out here in a bit. hopefully some sleep will do me some good. staying awake and looping my thoughts like i am isnt doing me any good.

however, this community means alot to me. and what you guys have to say really gets me thinking. which is what i need. i dunno, im in a period in my life where a crossroad is right around the corner. while i wait to get to that point, its easy for me to just drink my time away.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063226 - 02/24/08 03:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Get your duffle bag packed, soldier. Get your shit together. Pack it up neat and tight. Move with a sense of purpose derived from your own ambitions, not the orders of some warehouse manager.


SPINE, man. FUCKING SPINE AND A DOSE OF CONCENTRATION ARE A POWERFUL COMBINATION.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063235 - 02/24/08 03:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)
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heres a song, and im out. pretty sums up my mood. i wouldnt mind this thread to disappear into the dark underbelly of forgotten theads... but aty the same time, any input would be much more understandable once i be sober again. thank you shroomery.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063238 - 02/24/08 03:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if I was a doctor I would prescribe you a large healthy dose of opiates.


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Re: drinking [Re: GnuBobo]
    #8063248 - 02/24/08 03:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps a mushroom trip? For the past few years I had been drinking heavily, but the other day I went on a mushroom voyage, and it showed me how much alchol was effecting me, how damaging and how I was wasting away due to alchol, It told me I need to QUIT RIGHT NOW! It was showing me all this with such strong emotions and wow it was mind blowing!

I have not had a drink since, which well really suprises me.

oh and excuse my rating lol I got bored one day and posted a bunch of fake stories which well resulted in my rating lol.


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Re: drinking [Re: Fexor]
    #8063250 - 02/24/08 03:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

awww how sweet


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Re: drinking [Re: aDoS]
    #8063257 - 02/24/08 03:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hahahaha or did you just post in OTD too much, I left there as I felt a gang rape coming on.


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063258 - 02/24/08 03:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know man it seems like you don't smoke much.. it's much better to be high all the time than be drinking all the time. I'm the same way, I hate sobriety. If I have any drugs I will usually do them all. It's not like I have to get fucked up, I just prefer to. If I didn't smoke so much weed I don't know what I would do..


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Re: drinking [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #8063260 - 02/24/08 03:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

marijuana tends to make me feel like  :flowstone:

just the effects i get I suppose


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Re: drinking [Re: antiPock]
    #8063262 - 02/24/08 03:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well yeah I was pissing off the otd people lol,

And also posted a story about dosing a friend with datura lol, I just had to see peoples reactions :wink: was quite funny


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Re: drinking [Re: Fexor]
    #8063267 - 02/24/08 03:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh jesus I would given you zero shrooms for dropping datura (or any tropane) on someone unannounced too, but if you say it was fake I'll take your word at it. :laugh:

edit: and wow you have 38 ratings with 145 posts. I have but 8 ratings with 100 more posts. I guess your story made quite a splash!


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Re: drinking [Re: aDoS]
    #8063271 - 02/24/08 03:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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awww how sweet




We need some loud, hardcore metal nowishly. Chase off the hippies. They deserve to be caged, but it's more cost-effective to let them go free range. The price per pound on free-range hippies brings in a tidy profit at these health-nut stores.

Seriously--imagine a woman that is 60 or so, and you can tell she was pretty hot when she was young. Give her a leg of organic, free-range Pillow, and it'll be like John Bonham is back from the grave.


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Re: drinking [Re: antiPock]
    #8063272 - 02/24/08 03:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=myposts&Number=7238902&page=1&fpart=1

It all started on first page somewhere there LoL

and yeah it had the effect I planned!:lol:


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Re: drinking [Re: wrestler_az]
    #8063354 - 02/24/08 05:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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wrestler_az said:
at what point, does it become a "problem"? ive been drinking a lot more recently, especially since ive quit smoking pot. its starting to become a daily ritual for me... as was pot back in the day. why do i feel the need to not be sober? why am i afraid of being sober? just some thoughts... ive been doubting my actions as of late. im fucking hammered drunk right now, again, and am once again finding myself in a peculiar mood. im not even sure what the point of this post is... but there is definitely something that needs to be said, and discussed... i see myself becoming quite the alcoholic... and i dont like it. but i like to drink. this is my dilemma.




You asked the question "when does it become a problem?" My best friends mother is a severe alcoholic, she is not sober for more than 5 minutes after waking up, cannot talk to her own daughter without slurring her words and becoming hard to understand, has shit herself in the past due to chronic alcoholism, and the fact that she cant control her own body functions beacause she's been drinking excessively for so long. Just yesterday me and her daughter went over and cooked dinner for her and ran to the grocery store beacause her mother COULDNT.

This is when it becomes a problem. Lord knows that i love to drink to, but luckily this woman scares me into keeping it a once a week kind of thing. Your a grown man and can make your own choices, but i urge you as a friend to be careful, as you are playing with fire.

I too feel the need to substitue another drug for one that ive quit or has gotten me into a lot of trouble. Ive been battling addiction to opiod painkillers as of late, and due to the fact that i dont plan on taking anymore of them i have upped my pot intake as of late. I too am afraid to live life sober, thats for sure!


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    #8064668 - 02/24/08 01:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: drinking [Re: civil twilight]
    #8064985 - 02/24/08 03:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Whenever you're unhappy, think about what the most difficult thing for you to accomplish would be.

That's usually what you're gonna have to do to become happy again.

Drinking is just a side issue, a distraction. Don't let drinking become a central issue, or you will have a hard time ever getting to the core of your problems.


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Re: drinking [Re: g00ru]
    #8065136 - 02/24/08 04:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

after some heavy drinking, some heavy thinking, some heavy sleeping, and a heavy hang over... i have come to some conclusions.

i am confused. i am bored. i am lonely. i am frustrated. and i feel stuck and helpless to do much about anything. i know the part about being helpless isnt true, but i guess its a lot easier to get down and out on yourself than to actually do anything about it.

plus my job situation has really sucked lately. when i first got hired, work was booming and i was working a lot, making some decent money. feeling pretty good about what i was doing. than BAM... work slows to almost a stand still. leaving me with plenty of time to sit around and drink myself out of my mind.

i get to start working again tomorrow, hopefully on a regular basis again. this lack of work seems to be what has allowed myself to get into this get drunk and feel sorry for myself attitude. i wasnt like this when i was working, i couldnt be like this when i was working. because i had work to do.

anyway, im done feeling sorry for myself at the moment, aside from god awful hangover i have... lol


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