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TheShroomJew23
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Own Mother calls DEA on son
#8062713 - 02/23/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was sitting in my apartment today, minding my own business when I got a private call from the DEA. Some douche bag agent called me to notify me that my mother had called them because she was concerned that I was growing magic mushrooms. After listening to this douche for half an hour about how if I take shrooms I'll freak out and kill someone or I'll OD if I take shrooms and smoke weed, I tried to explain to him that I was culturing an unknown fungi I discovered on a golf course. Before I could even finish that sentence he told me that they had gotten a search warrant and were going to exucute it on wednesday. To that I said "come right now you fuckin pig nazi and bring your biast bull shit scientists with." Then he hung up, he never showed up so I guess I'll have to wait till wednesday to personally kick his ass and make it look like he commited an antisemetic crime against me.
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im_on_a_boat
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holy shit.
sounds like you lead an intense life.
i hope you dont go to jail for it.. or make us all look bad.
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#8062722 - 02/23/08 11:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Chemy]
#8062744 - 02/23/08 11:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I checked out his badge num or wat ever they get, he was a legit agent, the fungi im culturing isnt illegal, i dont even have any illegal cultures or grows going. I was hoping that when he does exucute the search and finds nothing I can sue them on hrrasment charges. I am in no way trying to make the Shroomery or Shroomites look bad, just trying to piss of the DEA.
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sounds strange to me
sir we are going to search your house on wednesday, sooo make sure to leave any illegal substances around the house, ohh and make sure to leave them in an open area soo we can find them quickly, i gotta meet my mom for lunch that evening and if im late she might call the president and tell him im growing mushrooms as well
rofl....have fun with that douche bag
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Kombat Frank]
#8062784 - 02/23/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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this is just a fishy situation.
i dont think a federal agent would go out of their way to fck with a smalltime kid growin some edibles because his mom's a little of 'er rocker.. if she did call him in on something, it would be local cops i would think.. unless she just wanted to get him help instead of getting him busted so that's the initial reason for the guy to call him and lecture him in the first place which this kid is unwilling to listen and rejects all authority.
so that leaves me two conclusions:
this kid is bullshitting.
this kid has a fucked up life.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#8062998 - 02/24/08 01:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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My mom isn't very intelligent and I called her after and asked her what she told him and they way the local officer understood her brought him to the conclusion that I was like some mushroom/weed king. He then called the DEA and one of their agents contacted her and because she is a very influencial women she was able to convince him to call me to scare me so i will get rid of it and not waste their money. He called me back a little while ago and said that he is going to fully exucute the warrant because he believes that he has info about LSD and DMT production or disturbution. Oh, by the way he thinks he's talkin to my dad. My dad warned me earlier then both of these convo's the first convo with the agent he thinks its me but the second convo he thinks its my dad.
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You should probably move, get a po box for all correspondence, don't tell anyone in your family exactly where you live ever again. Change your drivers license address to your PO box and don't get any utilities in your name.
I have never heard of an agent telling someone they are getting a search warrant.
Certainly you are in the local and federal databases now, it would be interesting to file a freedom of information act request and see what they have on you.
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if you are not doing anything illegal, fuck them.
if you are, or even plan on doing anything illegal then way to go mom & son.
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Cops don't call ahead to schedule a time to search you house for drugs.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Seuss]
#8065620 - 02/24/08 06:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its along story why he warned me about the search but lets just leave it at that he respects my mother and since I have a perfectly clean record he wants to give me a chance, but if I still have anything on weds then the chance is over.
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well whatever... does your mom understand that getting caught growing isn't a probation eligible offense in most areas?
Here you get 2 years minimum...
I love these stories where ex girlfriends or parents try to "get back" or "teach a lesson" to those they care about.
Then the mom and girlfriend cry and say "I didn't know he could get 5 years!" Yeah, dumbshit, try investigating the consequences of your actions before you start down an unkown path.
oh, and lol at "shroomjew"
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Quote:
TheShroomJew23 said: Its along story why he warned me about the search but lets just leave it at that he respects my mother and since I have a perfectly clean record he wants to give me a chance, but if I still have anything on weds then the chance is over.
I'm sure you know what to do in that case.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Le_Canard]
#8066624 - 02/24/08 10:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ya hide the fuckers.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Seuss]
#8067557 - 02/25/08 03:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seuss said: Cops don't call ahead to schedule a time to search you house for drugs.
Yeah the DEA arent retards. They wouldnt tell you when they were showing up to execute a search warrant. Even a chimp would realize to get rid of everything they had illegal immediately. They would never bust anyone this way.
Sounds like your mom had one of her friends punk you.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Seuss]
#8068020 - 02/25/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seuss said: Cops don't call ahead to schedule a time to search you house for drugs.
maybe they're just trying to "scare him straight" or give him one last chance to stop his illegal activity.
i'm sure someones mom calling the dea on their son is a unique situation, so perhaps the agent has a small amount of sympathy for the family and is really trying to "help" them.
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oh yeah, and good job cussing out the dea agent. i'm sure you can expect a nice 5am door kick in tomorrow instead of a knock on the door. also, good luck ever doing anything illegal again.
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If I were in your situation (and it sounds like you're sure this is legit...)
I would not only get rid of anything I physically had... I would clean my computer as well. That may sound a little paranoid, but feds have been known to confiscate and search computers on a warrant.
I'd get something like System Mechanic and I would completely clear out my internet records, temporary files, etc. Then I would take anything drug related and use a secure deletion program ("incinerator" "shredder" etc) that overwrites the files with random data multiple times, so that the deleted data cannot be recovered.
This way, they would have ABSOLUTELY nothing to put in a file on you, other than a bullshit tip-off.
Then again, I'm paranoid as shit.
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Oh, and no offense...
But your mother sounds like a fucking cunt.
Good luck.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: CidneyIndole]
#8071348 - 02/26/08 03:48 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doesnt add up at all IMHO
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: chaos05]
#8071378 - 02/26/08 04:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would never speak to my mother again if she called the fuzz on me, or anyone else for that matter. Thats crossing the 'no return line' in my book.
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> maybe they're just trying to "scare him straight" or give him one last chance to stop his illegal activity.
... and maybe Al Gore really did invent the internet.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Seuss]
#8072488 - 02/26/08 01:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You know Al Gore never said that?
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Seuss]
#8075947 - 02/27/08 03:24 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > maybe they're just trying to "scare him straight" or give him one last chance to stop his illegal activity.
... and maybe Al Gore really did invent the internet.
and maybe not everythings as black and white as you seem to think.
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> and maybe not everythings as black and white as you seem to think.
When drugs and the DEA are involved, there is no gray area. I have never once in my entire life heard of a DEA agent letting a drug arrest go. In my experience some cops are cool, some cops are assholes, but all DEA agents are assholes. I'll stick to my black and white view of narcotic officers and assume that the mother spoke with somebody other than the DEA.
Did you catch the COPS show a few years ago where a lady thought some house was a crack house? She called the cops, but they couldn't do anything without proof. She went and bought a rock for proof, then called the cops again. The cops showed up and arrested the lady for possession, and left the crack house alone. So much for the gray area...
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: You should probably move, get a po box for all correspondence, don't tell anyone in your family exactly where you live ever again. Change your drivers license address to your PO box and don't get any utilities in your name.
That's probably the most logical idea
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Seuss]
#8077503 - 02/27/08 02:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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hahaha i need to see that episode, that shit is hilarious.
edit: did this guy get searched or what?
Edited by usg543 (02/27/08 02:42 PM)
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: usg543]
#8077556 - 02/27/08 02:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude shrooms arent even that high of a case. the law may state that its 2 years min in some places but no they ussually dont take it that far. good luck dude lmao funny shit tho
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Where I live its a class 2 felony with a min of 6 years and thats only for posseison of shrooms. Illinois sucks. By the way they did come and they confiscated everything because they said that even though I wasnt doing anything illegal I could have been or will in the future. There goes over a 1000 worth of equipment minus supplies.
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LOL. This sounds like paranoid delusions. Thats like the DEA confiscating an entire agricultural mushroom farm since it could be used illegally.
Your mom could have paid or asked some guys to act this out but the chance of this being legit DEA agents is less then nothing.
If this is somehow true you should easily be able to get your shit back.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: pazzy]
#8079621 - 02/27/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trust me they were legit IDEA and the Narcs came with them, it was totally fucked up and they said I could go to court and fight it but it would probably end up costing me more than the confiscated stuff.
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no, you can simply contest it.
who seized the shit feds or some locality? Did you get a reciept?
They have to sue you for it if you contest it, so you probably don't have to pay shit unless you get a lawyer.
If I was innocent like you say I'd fight it.
Then again they may develop evidence in the course of prosecuting the case against you that would lead to criminal charges, who knows.
And how did they not think you were growing mushrooms? Did they know what they should look like/ do presumptive tests? Or maybe they just send everything to a lab anyways.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: johnm214]
#8079731 - 02/27/08 11:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Since it's not that much you might try suing them in small claims. Usually the filing fee is pretty cheap. I would certainly sue them for the potential mushrooms you could have grown also.
Subpoena everyone involved from the agents to their bosses to your parents to the local cops that refered the case. Question each and every witness about every detail, their records, etc., etc.. After everyone having to be present for a 3-4 day trial they might think twice about bulldogging someone again like that.
You might also try pursuing charges against your mother as far as filing a false police report, defamation, falsely reporting a crime, perjury, etc..
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: fastfred]
#8079799 - 02/27/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks FastFred, since I'm Jewish I'm just going to have my lawyer cousin represent me. I already started a lawsuit and they didn't even test it or send it out to a lab.
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Since your jewish. What?
Why would they need to test a lawsuit in a lab?
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: pazzy]
#8081121 - 02/28/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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This makes no sense what-so-ever...
Cops along with the DEA show up at your house, after scheduling an appointment (more or less), with a search warrant (I assume), take your property, but don't arrest you or anybody else?
Assuming this isn't a fairy tale, I would take a long look at the warrant they served to see exactly what it allowed. If they followed the letter of the warrant, I would follow the normal channels to contest the search and recover my property. If they had no search warrant, or violated the search warrant, then I would file a complaint against the officers involved, and file a civil case as well. Finally, I would never speak to my mother again. Tough love works both directions.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Seuss]
#8081353 - 02/28/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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i call troll.
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Quote:
TheShroomJew23 said: since I'm Jewish I'm just going to have my lawyer cousin represent me.
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This story seems like BS to me. I doubt that the DEa would even care about a small grow operation. If they did care it would be because they thought that you had a pretty large growing/dealing operation. If that was the case there is no way that they would call you and tell you that they were going to search your house in a couple days. There job is to trust drug dealers and if they thought you were one they are not going to effectively say, "get everything illegal out of your house if you don't want to go to jail because we are going to search it in a few days." I also doubt that the suspicions of somebody's mom is enough to get a search warrant.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: dtugg]
#8087732 - 02/29/08 08:15 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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all this is due to what?
there are things curious about this story, but the DEA raiding someone manufacturing schedule 1 hallucinogens isn't one of them
try passing a fake prescription or two... see if you don't get the DEA interested, even though you didn't manufacture anything and maybe only got 20 pills.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: johnm214]
#8087756 - 02/29/08 08:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomjew seems like he's full of shit. Check out some of this other threads. He's just looking to stir up shit and troll it looks like.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: fastfred]
#8087801 - 02/29/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah this story is weird, but not cuz the DEA's involved
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: johnm214]
#8088311 - 02/29/08 11:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some of my other posts are just shit cause I have a sleeping disorder and I was bored at like 5 in the morning. This one on the other hand is completely legit. The person who called me was a Narc that knew my mom and my dad and wanted to give me a chance before I got busted. The IDEA/Narcs didn't know he had called me so they though it was just a normal search and seizure.
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fot a cop to get a legit warrant they have to have reliable information, the informant has to have seen the grow and know where it was located, it has to be specified in the affidavit when they're applying for the warrant, obtain a copy of the affidavit and the rest is follow seuss' advice
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8090027 - 03/01/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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not per the us constitution, just has to be more likely than not that the person has commited a crime
there aren't many hard and fast rules regarding warrants and the particular facts needed
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: johnm214]
#8090795 - 03/01/08 05:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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there are firmly set rules for obtaining search warrants, judges dont issue them based on hunches.
Edited by Prisoner#1 (03/01/08 09:56 PM)
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8090917 - 03/01/08 06:06 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your link doesn't support your claim P#1. The story is about two courts that stuck to firmly defined rules, but then the supreme court overturned that and basically said "Naw, there's really no rules, you have to examine the 'totality of circumstances' without any real specific rules and basically go on hunches and probabilities."
The probable cause standard is thus quite a nebulous standard and YMMV. Usually they have to have specific and credible evidence that drugs are in your home. Usually they need to know where they are located and the basis for that knowledge. But sometimes they can just go on hunches or pile up a bunch of minor details to make you look bad enough to have probable cause that you're a criminal.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: fastfred]
#8090957 - 03/01/08 06:13 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry, I'm just browsing shit and caught what appeared to be, I'm installing some stupid shitty flooring that's supposed to snap together and nothing lines up right
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said: sorry, I'm just browsing shit and caught what appeared to be, I'm installing some stupid shitty flooring that's supposed to snap together and nothing lines up right
tiles or what?
just throw a carpet down, problem solved
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8091011 - 03/01/08 06:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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here's the basic rules for obtaining a warrant, of course from the sounds of things he's living with his parents which would lend credence to them not needing much more than the call, of course the rents could have just told them to come on in and search the place with no warrant needed even if they dont live there but the place he lives in in their name
http://jec.unm.edu/training/search_warrants/sw_requi.htm
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Evaluation of Hearsay Evidence If probable cause is based on hearsay, the judge must use a two-part test to evaluate the trustworthiness of the hearsay. Both of the following elements must be established by substantial evidence:
1. "Veracity" of the informer. This means the informer providing the hearsay must be credible. The affidavit must contain sufficient facts indicating the informer is believable or truthful. For example, the affidavit should state the reasons why the informer believes that the seizable items are located in the place to be searched and the reasons why the police officer believes that the informer is reliable. * To satisfy the veracity test, the affidavit must establish that: (a) the informer is a truthful person; (b) the informer has a particular motive to be truthful about the specific allegation (for example, it is against the informer's interest); or (c) the allegations of criminality are sufficiently corroborated. 2. "Basis of knowledge" of the informer. This means that the informer has a factual basis for the information furnished. The affidavit must contain sufficient facts indicating the basis for the informant's knowledge. For example, the affidavit should describe the accused's criminal activity in sufficient detail for the judge to determine that the allegation is something more substantial than casual rumor. * To satisfy the basis of knowledge test, the affidavit must establish that: (a) the informer gathered the information of illegal activity in a reliable fashion; or (b) the informer's information is based on either personal knowledge or on reliable hearsay received by the informer.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: johnm214]
#8091026 - 03/01/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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johnm214 said: just throw a carpet down, problem solved
it's the cheap laminate flooring that looks like wood, I've always hated the shit, carpet is what's coming out because carpet sucks and mom believes it's what's keeping her sick
I tried to convince her to do hardwood but in the eagerness to save a nickel she wanted to go with this, it's a 2 man job at the least and my brother wont pull his nose out of a computer long enough to help
it's aggravating as hell
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8091260 - 03/01/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT USE THIS LINK from the post above...
h**p://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_2_71/ai_83794813
It installs a boatload of spyware, adware, malware, infostealers, and viri!!!
Sorry to take so long to post this, but I just finished cleaning out my system. I left a browser window on this page for maybe 10 minutes and it started loading all sorts of spyware. Symantic antivirus caught most of it, but it still managed to install 4-5 viruses and hijacks.
If you need help with it post here. It loaded some undeletable DLLs in c:\windows, c:\windows\system32, and documents.../all users/aplication data.
I think I finally got my system clean. Major PITA! Running spybot again.
I'm not sure if it's the first, second, or third page in this that loads this shit. Maybe it's one of those random ads. So maybe it won't affect everyone, but don't try it unless you want to test your system protection or spend the next couple hours fighting this shit.
-FF
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kristofer
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my experience with the DEA wasn't pleasant at all. I recommend reconsidering your position.
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fastfred
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: kristofer]
#8091290 - 03/01/08 07:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Update: Found another "trackware" in C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Local Settings\Temp\.
This shit sucks ass.
-FF
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: fastfred]
#8091418 - 03/01/08 08:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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fastfred said: WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT USE THIS LINK from the post above...
h**p://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_2_71/ai_83794813
I'm not sure if it's the first, second, or third page in this that loads this shit. Maybe it's one of those random ads. So maybe it won't affect everyone, but don't try it unless you want to test your system protection or spend the next couple hours fighting this shit.
-FF
apparently that company has some issues w/ adware... they love it
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showtopic=5962
(never knew this before, actually)
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: johnm214]
#8091701 - 03/01/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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johnm214 said: not per the us constitution, just has to be more likely than not that the person has commited a crime
That's true in theory.. but what with the Patriot Act and all.. the us constitution is about as good as toilet paper. They could imprison you for looking funny, if they wanted to.. without a trial.
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fastfred said: WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT USE THIS LINK from the post above...
h**p://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_2_71/ai_83794813
It installs a boatload of spyware, adware, malware, infostealers, and viri!!!
Sorry to take so long to post this, but I just finished cleaning out my system. I left a browser window on this page for maybe 10 minutes and it started loading all sorts of spyware. Symantic antivirus caught most of it, but it still managed to install 4-5 viruses and hijacks.
If you need help with it post here. It loaded some undeletable DLLs in c:\windows, c:\windows\system32, and documents.../all users/aplication data.
I think I finally got my system clean. Major PITA! Running spybot again.
I'm not sure if it's the first, second, or third page in this that loads this shit. Maybe it's one of those random ads. So maybe it won't affect everyone, but don't try it unless you want to test your system protection or spend the next couple hours fighting this shit.
-FF
You, my friend... need Firefox + NoScript + Adblock plugins. I can click on that link fine with no malware . Although I do see about 5 sites being blocked. I'm not really sure how I ever browsed the internet without it. I'd have about a billion trojans by now if I didn't.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: fastfred]
#8091767 - 03/01/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry fred, I had no problems from the page, I deleted the original link
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Shroomism]
#8091791 - 03/01/08 10:04 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: You, my friend... need Firefox + NoScript + Adblock plugins.
I have only firefox and fprot for viruses, I had no issues
again, sorry kids
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johnm214



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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8091851 - 03/01/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's true in theory.. but what with the Patriot Act and all.. the us constitution is about as good as toilet paper. They could imprison you for looking funny, if they wanted to.. without a trial.
wrong, pretty much
Your unlikely to encounter the patriot act, and it has nothing to do with imprisonment, only evidence gathering.
Patriot act fears are mostly hype. Its a bad law, but won't affect most people.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: johnm214]
#8092604 - 03/02/08 03:03 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Unless they are investigating you. In which case the "patriot act" allows them to see what library books you've checked out.
It's real nice for scientists where any of your ILL loan requests for journal papers will show up.
AS far as that page IE6 with symantec antivirus and I got well fucked. Thanks for removing the link. Anyone brave enough can check out the munged link in my post.
-FF
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: fastfred]
#8092745 - 03/02/08 05:41 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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there's always linux.. no need for spyware, anti-virus or adware because applications are generally installed from a trusted package repository or compiled from source. unless you use some fancy applications like the adobe creative suite there's no reason to use shitty proprietary software.
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: fastfred]
#8092806 - 03/02/08 06:59 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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fastfred said: AS far as that page IE6 with symantec antivirus
lose symantic asap, check my journal for a better AV
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: kristofer]
#8092810 - 03/02/08 07:01 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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kristofer said: there's always linux..
there are thousands of viruses for linux, beats the millions for windows but as linux gains popularity there will be more
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Re: Own Mother calls DEA on son [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8094525 - 03/02/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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there are holes in all code man. at least open source is peer reviewed and bugs and security holes are found and fixed by the community.
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