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AnarchoTrip
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LSD Flashbacks
#8062237 - 02/23/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd like some feedback from experienced LSD users, specifically those who claim to have experienced LSD flashbacks.
I've recently been noticing some abnormal visual effects, soberly, and I'm curious as to if they're some form of LSD flashbacks. It's usually triggered by looking at a small, repetative pattern (most commonly really small floor tiles), and then having my eyes go out of focus. I noticed this awhile back while going to the bathroom; the tiles begin to swell and move around, ever so slightly, on the floor in a very similar fashion to while I've been on psychedelics (LSD, specifically). There's been other times it's randomly kicked in, but it is triggered most effectively via the way I just described.
Is that a "flashback?" I read someone else's post awhile back concerning flashbacks as a quirky visual effect that, prior to tripping one would've just assumed "whoa, that was kinda weird;" now, after tripping, however, an experienced user can say "wow, that's a lot like it was when I was tripping." What's yr opinions on that? I think I agree and relate. Also, what's the big deal? I don't get why this is such a phenomenon to people; once our brain has become familiarized with the neuro-pathways of our brains while tripping, it makes sense that we'd be able to go via those transits again. I usually make the analogy of never being taught mathematics, then, after having learnt math, we can easily go down those logical neuropathways again. What's the big freaky deal?
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the more you drop acid the stronger that gets though, and the more often it happens
and your thought patterns start to get a lot wierder and more scattered as well
at least for me....everyone is different
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i think the "flashback" thing is pretty overexagerated. i get the HPPD though. ive never had an, all the sudden, im tripping balls again, then it just go away, flashback kinda thing. but i do have visual distortions everyday, pretty much constantly. but ive gotten used to it. not a big deal.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8062336 - 02/23/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am glad to hear others talking about this. Anytime I say look up at the ceiling with all those little dots, they seem to wave and move around sort of speak. Like ou said, when your eyes just get out of focus. Or say the new tail lights on some cars really weird me out. With all the dots. Guess it seems to be a dot thing with me, that mess with my head the most. They mess with my vision bad. One day I asked my girl if they looked weird to her "new taillights" and she was kinda like, "what are you talking about" of course I was like never mind.
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EllisDSox
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I've had something similar. The most intense thing I've had visually was lots of different colours appear on a ceiling while the dried paint drops span in circles. I also occasionally get strange sensations in my nose and breathing through it becomes more noticeable, which actually makes meditation easier.
The most profound long term effect I've had as a result of LSD is a feeling of absolute infinite love and contentment, which I can get back to occasionally, either throuh meditation or spontaneously. Flash backs are hugely over-exaggerated, but over-using psychedelics can make visual distortions and strange thoughts more and more intense.
I think these effects are fed by paranoia, since intense fear can in itself cause hallucinations, so when someone reacts to these "flashbacks" with fear, it just intensifies them and the cycle continues. That's just a theory of mine, though. In general, though, unless you're tripping several times a week on huge doses, flashbacks aren't significant, and even if you are, they might never happen.
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the longer I go without taking psychedelics the more this seems to fade for me.
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MOTH
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I love acid flashbacks. I wish I got them more often.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: MOTH]
#8062448 - 02/23/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i still feel it every day
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I usually get them when I toke...flashbacks aren't that bad for me, but every so often, a picture on the wall may seem to zoom towards me, or a spot of my vision will swirl a teeny bit, nothing too bad...I've done 'cid about 5 times, the first 4 times were under 100mcg doses...the fifth...well, that was over 500 mics and I get flashbacks every so often. It's nothing big, hardly noticible for me unless you really look at whatever it is at the time...
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: MOTH]
#8062540 - 02/23/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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MOTH said: I love acid flashbacks. I wish I got them more often.
how bout you tell us about your "acid flashbacks."
what happens?
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8062598 - 02/23/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's like I re-experience the acid trip, visually, aurally, conceptually, and emotionally. Like deju-vu feels, only it reminds you of a trip you have. It's fun.
Maybe it's not an acid flashback. Maybe I just have a good memory and a potent imagination.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: MOTH]
#8063197 - 02/24/08 02:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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WOW man I cant exlpain the flashbacks as well as i want due to the english launguage being fucked up so i will do my best: I took acic 3 times in the past year Im only 20 It came around and i grabbed it two hits each time it fucked me up pretty good man, i was seeing faces in my wooden walls, thought some fat guy in a white Tee Shirt was god. Went up to my room to die. Then i started seeing shit! shit i didnt even see while i was on Cid man. Yeah Totally trippy man like when the right light hits my irises, or the right pattern of objects in my vision arises sometimes i see those tracers flowing from my spirit. the same tracers or vertices (vortexes) they capture in ghost images. shit man i do believe taking acid links up us with a spiritual dimension, but i did not know how interdimensional it really was///// ya know. lol, a lot like putting a blender in your house and scrambling everything up. i havent taken acid in at least three months but the flashbacks are getting more common i dont know if its whether i am welcoming more and more visions and the spirits are sloly teapotting me in about it; so i dont get scared and go crazy. dont get frightend by them
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i sometimes have flashbacks, but not really what is stereotyped. I find after getting a buzz off some really good weed, i sometimes find myself getting slight visuals. As my friends say the same thing. Don't know if its technically a flashback thou.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks *DELETED* [Re: Ogla]
#8064210 - 02/24/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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please dont spread bullshit civil.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: ultimo101]
#8064305 - 02/24/08 12:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I call them echoes instead of flashbacks
i think that is a much better description of the phenomenon
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Well....
Most of the stuff you hear is bullshit. You may get a weird feeling after you have tripped, maybe a week or two, or even a month or two, and you automatically attribute that to you taking a drug/the trip.
If it was a bad trip, sometimes people will have a panic attack because they think their gonna start tripping again, this usually brings on the fear they had, and they can feel pretty shitty.
As for REAL flashbacks, its bullshit, I've heard of people with previous mental health issues who have episodes, but no real flashbacks like its portrayed.
I've had similar situations where something weird will happen, like if you stare at a bunch of tree's for ages, or the tiles on your bathroom floor, shit like that.
Well I guess you can put it into two camps-
Weird thought patterns and a MINOR re-occurant of the effects of the drug after you have taken it.
And HPPD.
But generally, most of the STORIES you hear are bullshit.
Feel free to quote me on this if I'm wrong.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: ultimo101]
#8064518 - 02/24/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ultimo101 said: please dont spread bullshit civil.
please elaborate.
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ChinaBoy
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I heard you trigger flashbacks by going from a dark room to a very bright one.
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cycoshitzo
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: ChinaBoy]
#8068426 - 02/25/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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While i don't have flashbacks, i do get some extreme hppd. nothing more than what i've had and it's just triggered by visiting a place that was a very pleasant part of my trips.
and as for civil, i don't think he's spreading much bullshit, some people can go off their rocker from taking shitloads of lsd, however they do have to be predisposed to a mental disorder. and his friend is probably just going on major hppd episodes. i'd have to hear more in depth about the story to be more judgemental or to even call it bullshit.
BTW civil, is your name off the weakerthan's newest album or something else?
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: ChinaBoy]
#8068601 - 02/25/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ChinaBoy said: I heard you trigger flashbacks by going from a dark room to a very bright one.
Yeah that's happened to me before too...but the flashbacks are hardly noticible...It's like 1/20th the intensity of the visuals you would get on the actual drug LSD.
In other words, no big deal.
Sometimes when I look at my phone, on my contact list my friends names may appear to swell a little bit as I scroll down...that's pretty amusing for me. 
Also, every time I drive over the 520 in Seattle I get some great vibes and I kind of feel like some acid is working in my system, just barely, it's a little tinge of feeling of the trip in my body and mind...in case you're wondering, I was heading home from taking a good amount of GREAT LSD when I was on the 520 bridge, and that's when I started to feel it's effects and I loved it....so many memories...ahh...
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Quote:
AnarchoTrip said: I'd like some feedback from experienced LSD users, specifically those who claim to have experienced LSD flashbacks.
I've recently been noticing some abnormal visual effects, soberly, and I'm curious as to if they're some form of LSD flashbacks. It's usually triggered by looking at a small, repetative pattern (most commonly really small floor tiles), and then having my eyes go out of focus. I noticed this awhile back while going to the bathroom; the tiles begin to swell and move around, ever so slightly, on the floor in a very similar fashion to while I've been on psychedelics (LSD, specifically). There's been other times it's randomly kicked in, but it is triggered most effectively via the way I just described.
Is that a "flashback?" I read someone else's post awhile back concerning flashbacks as a quirky visual effect that, prior to tripping one would've just assumed "whoa, that was kinda weird;" now, after tripping, however, an experienced user can say "wow, that's a lot like it was when I was tripping." What's yr opinions on that? I think I agree and relate. Also, what's the big deal? I don't get why this is such a phenomenon to people; once our brain has become familiarized with the neuro-pathways of our brains while tripping, it makes sense that we'd be able to go via those transits again. I usually make the analogy of never being taught mathematics, then, after having learnt math, we can easily go down those logical neuropathways again. What's the big freaky deal?
Thanks.
This happens to me all the time too! It's usually after I've been high for awhile or up a long time.. I usually notice it in my bathroom as well.. It's been about 3 months since my last acid trip, and it still happens. I love it.. there's nothing i like better while tripping than staring in one spot and getting lost in the swell. I always feel like I'm tripping in the background when sober... like I'm 98% normal and 2% tripping.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: Leviathan]
#8068925 - 02/25/08 03:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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there is a certain amount of shifting you will see if you stare at a pattern long enough, even if you've never tripped before. it's an optical illusion that occurs naturally and is sort of magnified when tripping.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: kenneld]
#8068968 - 02/25/08 03:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe - but then tripping magnifies it a lot. I'm still green in the psychedelic journey and can recall how the first time I took shrooms changed my vision. Ever since the last July 4th - that's when I took them - things ceased to be still. It's like the world turned dynamic and everything seems to be moving slightly - very very slightly - almost impercievable. Also, in the darkness - the air becomes "fuzzy". btw, is this what "seeing static" is? I've heard people talk about how they see static on the walls and so forth; is this "fuzziness" static?
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: sky]
#8069008 - 02/25/08 03:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You might be talking about "snow". Part of minor HPPD.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: blacksun]
#8069031 - 02/25/08 04:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Finally read what HPPD was.
Didn't mention "snow" though. What's that?
Also, I disliked the tone of wikipedia's entry on HPPD - I really don't think it's a disorder. And I didn't like the part where they distinguished people who didn't take psychedelics as "healthy" individuals.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: sky]
#8070219 - 02/25/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've read about that before. I felt the same way.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: cycoshitzo]
#8070349 - 02/25/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think I have ever had a flashback, but probobly what some people might claim to be flashbacks, mainly: seeing things shift slightly if I stare at them for a long time, ability to rapidly enter a more meditative or trippy headspace, seeing tracers on bright objects moving quickly over dark backgrounds.
I have never relive a psychedelic experience, nor had any true psychedelic experiences without taking one. I do feel that my appreciation and awareness of beauty have been enhanced from what they ued to be, and that now that certain doors are open I can approach deeper realms of consciousness unaided, and I have some mild visual artifacts.
The static thing, I'm pretty sure I got alot of it even before I tried psychedelics, it's just that I never stared at anything long enough to notice.
I think flashbacks are mostly just hype from the government and medical community feeding people's hypocondriasm and unfamiliarity with non-normative states of consciousness. If what one experiences on a psychedelic is real, and accessible through sober means such as meditation, it shouldn't be suprising that once someone is shown these dimensions that they can see them again.
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Seems to me that the world has become much, MUCH more entertaining, beautiful and artistic since my journey with hallucinogens.
Many things I look at become a painting. Um, but... yes.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: cycoshitzo]
#8072176 - 02/26/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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cycoshitzo said: BTW civil, is your name off the weakerthan's newest album or something else?
No, don't even know who that is...civil twilight is technically defined to be the time period when the sun is no more than 6 degrees below the horizon at either sunrise or sunset. But if I hads to describe it, its a short interval, or a peak period, if you will, where the lines between night and day are blurred. It is my favorite time to be tripping, and if you're out in the woods, its truly insane, almost like everything becomes more alive...
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cycoshitzo
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ah ok, i was just curious. it's a canadian band. they have a song on their most recent album by the same name.
i do have to agree with you on that time period however, i remember doing that while tripping. very very beautiful, almost indescribable.
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Re: LSD Flashbacks [Re: cycoshitzo]
#8072554 - 02/26/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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i know man, its like some of the stars are already out, but you can still play catch w/ a football, i sometimes wonder if got in a car and drove like 100 mph, heading west, how long i could make it last...as for the band...sounds like they know whats up, what kinda style are they?
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p.s. it better be a damn good song
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they're kinda their own style, most of it's just nice to chill to if you happen to like songs with deep lyrics. most of their songs are written entirely in metaphors and you have to actually think to understand the songs. they include philosophy in some songs, and they seem to have an obsession with cartography. just nice if you like to think about things in a relaxed mood. i've got most of their albums and i think their album Reconstruction Site is still my favourite.
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