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Rainman420
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Chewing Salvia extract, is this right?
#8062021 - 02/23/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi, I have searched for chewing salvia already but I am not completely sure on how to do it. For chewing it I know you don't spit and you are supposed to just let it sit in your mouth, is under the tounge the right place? So if I just go and get like 20X or something similar, is it ok to just put that under you toungue and suck/chew on it? Or does it have to be fresh leaf. I will be getting the dried extract from my local shop. Also, just a side thought, does the salvia go through bloodstream like dip? If so would dipping with salvia be a possible method? That probably sounds stupid but I am kinda new on the subject. thanks
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: Rainman420]
#8062039 - 02/23/08 07:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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quids are for fresh material.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: ectolysergic]
#8062086 - 02/23/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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it can be dry leaf you just have to dunk it in water before you dip it. but you dont want to get extract for sublingual ingestion. the extract you get from you local shop is most likely finely chopped and looks like parsley. this wouldnt work well as a quid. fresh leave or dried leaved that youve rehydrated are what you want. take about 5 whole leaves. and you can spit out the juice if you want. you dont have to swallow it. your body absobs it into your blood stream thru your mouth, not thru your stomach. GL with this, its def the way to go with salvia.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: just me]
#8062102 - 02/23/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks, well I guess I will just get leaves, preferbly fresh, I'll have to see what the selection is at my headshop. So basically extract is out of the question for the quid method?
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: Rainman420]
#8062118 - 02/23/08 07:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i would think if you dipped extract you would lose your mind. the amount that it would take to get a good sized dip is likely to cost you up to $80. and would be way powerful. when you take salvia sublingualy, the exp. lasts for A LOT longer than than smoking. and with using leaves instead of extract, you can get about 100 dips fot the price of one little gram of extract. i dont know how easy it is to get fresh leaves, but dried leaves are VERY cheap. and earlier i thought you were sayin you were going to swallow the juice, and i said to spit it, but really the best way is hold it in your mouth, swish it around, and spit out only every 10-15 minutes....ull be feelin real good in about 30
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: just me]
#8062132 - 02/23/08 07:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I might have to try this instead of smoking. So far smoking has just been a massive bitch to me!!
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: idreamofpiggies]
#8062161 - 02/23/08 07:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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how so? too intense???
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: just me]
#8062177 - 02/23/08 08:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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would about $30 worth of dry leaves be enough to get pretty intense effects? I might drop some more money if i have to.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: just me]
#8062184 - 02/23/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is Salvia really that good? I have heard about it and thought about trying it but it is way expensive here. At least the strong doses. My local head told me they wouldn't even sell the strong stuff to someone new to it. But by all means, it can't be any stronger than 15 H of Lucy in the sky with diamonds. Enlighten me please?
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: destindiver1980]
#8062203 - 02/23/08 08:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dude, read up on it, you will find that it it is a really intense trip (depending on your tolerance). But it only lasts about 10-15 mins when smoked. I havent tried orally yet. But it is really intense and then kinda fades away after 20mins or so. maybe even quiker depending on dose. But it isn't really something you should try if you are not ready. It can be crazy. There are no words to describe. but its not a long ass trip like lsd. Go to www.erowid.org and read up on it man.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: Rainman420]
#8062361 - 02/23/08 09:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds great! thanks for the info.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: destindiver1980]
#8062390 - 02/23/08 09:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Salvia was my first "hallucinogen" unless you want to count pot.
I remember first time felt nothing. We started moving up in dose and yeah I tripped balls, and I've experienced some pretty weird shit on salvia but I found the first 10 minutes of my first acid trip alot harder to manage, and alot more enjoyable (if that makes any sense).
Salvia didn't freak me out and it wasn't as bizarro as acid. I remember feeling like someone was rubbing me with the tip of a cactus on every part of my body, not painfully but little sharp sensations running all around me like body energy. That was about the worst part.
If you're used to acid I would start with a 20x dose.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: handicappedrat]
#8062464 - 02/23/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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chewing is very wasteful the comparison to 15 hits of acid is funny. the reason to protect the inexperienced from strong extract is that when this hits it hits so fast you are overcome 99% of the time. the transitions certainly seem way faster and stronger than lsd. (not exactly true but the intensity is astonishing. the duration is very short incomparison however
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: destindiver1980]
#8062475 - 02/23/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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destindiver1980 said: Is Salvia really that good? I have heard about it and thought about trying it but it is way expensive here. At least the strong doses. My local head told me they wouldn't even sell the strong stuff to someone new to it. But by all means, it can't be any stronger than 15 H of Lucy in the sky with diamonds. Enlighten me please?
Some like it, some don't, but I highly suggest you give it a chance. Me and my friend basically experimented with it for a year in a half, measuring the effects that environment/music/dosage had on the trip. I smoke people out all the time just so they could see what its like; It is an indescribable experience that puts your mind into a different realm of dimension basically. If the headshops are too expensive just check out bouncing bear botanicals and get a gram of 10x to try it out.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: cpk203]
#8064770 - 02/24/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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that shop cant tell you what to use, or refuse sale to you if youre not a salvia veteran. but getting any more than a 20x imo is just wasting money. ive had harder and more enjoyable exp. off of 20x smoke than any other strenght. but like it was stated, the "trip" hits you so fast that even as a veteran youre rarely prepared for it. its wise to have a trp sitter. and if you dont, at least have something non flamable to set the pipe down on immediately after a hit. and also if im not mistaken, salvinorin(the hallucinagen in salvia) by weight of pure substance, is THE MOST powerful hallucinagen. more so than mescaline, mdma, etc. the only thing that sounds more extreme is Jimsonweed which ive never had the chance to try...
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: just me]
#8064920 - 02/24/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Actually I believe DMT is the most powerful hallucinogen, salvia is right behind it though
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: HeadFood]
#8065328 - 02/24/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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both DMT and Salvinorin have a very fast ramp of effect. compared to other halucinogenic substances, they are both nearly sudden in build up to total effect (after a very brief delay) when smoked. comparing them for strength is strange. subjective and preparation dependent. salvinorin is probably as shockingly powerful at less than 100 the weight of DMT. but who can smoke pure salvinorin.
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: redgreenvines]
#8065722 - 02/24/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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MAN!!! i snort pure salvinorin for breakfast...and shoot it at tea time. never done dmt, whats that one like? if you can really explain it...
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: just me]
#8065844 - 02/24/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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just me said: how so? too intense???
No the shit hasn't worked! I live in Australia and so can't get my hands on any extract but I did manage to get a plant and the most I've got from smoking like 3 bowls was a little stoning effect... Chewing might just be my thing...
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Re: Chewing Salvia extract, is this right? [Re: idreamofpiggies]
#8066639 - 02/24/08 10:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yo piggies. if youve got a fresh plant, DEFINATELY sublingual is the way to go. the extraction process is crazy shit man. if youve only got one plan its not worth even tryin extraction. the number on the extract has to do with how many times(X) the salvinorin has been extracted and put back onto leaves. so say you have 100lbs of salvia leaves. and they extract, then reaply to another 100 lbs. then extract, then reaply, etc until theyve done it 20 times, then they have 100lbs. of 20x savliva exttract.....if im not mistaken....
anyway, piggies, cant you order from online vendors in AU? if so, pm me, ill give you some good info on some never fail vendors.
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