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Drewwyann
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LSD and break-ups
#8060152 - 02/23/08 12:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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My girlfriend recently broke up with me, and I've been extremely depressed recently. I've definitely weathered through the worst of the storm though.
I actually tripped the first week of it happening, and I some how managed not to think about it, and still had an amazing bonding experience with some friends, and we came out of it with tons of inside jokes as usual.
But do you think it's unhealthy to trip in the middle of a break-up? I've done it twice so far, and the second time had a pretty bad aura about it. There was just this feeling looming over me that I couldn't put myu finger on, but it wasn't a good feeling. I tried to think about the break-up during the trip, and I tried to get myself to tears because I wanted to see if I could or not, and I couldn't bring myself to. Probably because I was with some friends at the time. But do you think I should take a break? I've said I was going to take a break many times in the past, and never really have. Now I'm a socially awkward guy that just wants to find some really good friends.
So, healthy to trip during a break-up period, or unhealthy? It doesn't seem to be negative, but I'm afraid theres just going to be one of those trips, where it's more intense than I was expecting, and I get destroyed by the emotions surfacing.
Any advice? I'd like to continue tripping, it's a part of me now. It helps me see things clearly, dissolves barriers, and I think it defines me as a weird, weird person. But what do you think?
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: Drewwyann]
#8060177 - 02/23/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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A thorough introspection before deciding to trip after an emotional break-up would prove wisely, I think. If you're going into altered states during such a phase you must expect that these feelings will come to the surface and for that you have to believe yourself to be prepared to endure the state, and able to process the trip afterwards in a healthy manner.
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: Drewwyann]
#8060201 - 02/23/08 12:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've done that. It was, like you said, more intense than expected and the emotions that surfaced were un-wanted. I also happened to experience ego-death during this trip. At the time it was pure hell, in retrospect im EXTREMELY glad to have lived through that, I learned a lot. I was doing fine, and then all of a sudden it was like all of these memories and emotions overwhelmed my entire set of mind. I wasn't even particularly sad, nor distracted by the breakup this day, I was, to be honest with you getting over it quite well (relatively). This trip was earth-shattering.
But, realistically, if you watch your dosage, and keep a straight head, you'll be find. The only reason my trip went so terribly wrong was because I was definately *not* expecting such an intense trip.
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Drewwyann
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I often view emotions as different states of consciousness, which they very much are.
Depression is just another way for me to feel, theres nothing negative about it unless you view it that way. So I would very much be ready to feel it. I just won't be tripping alone for a while I guess.
I think a lot of positivity would come from it, if the 'negative' emotions were to surface.
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: Drewwyann]
#8060242 - 02/23/08 12:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Drewwyann said: Depression is just another way for me to feel, theres nothing negative about it unless you view it that way.
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Kombat Frank
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umm..its un healthy to trip period
sooooooo yeahhhhhhhh
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Shamanintraining
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You should be fine tripping threw a break up. In fact, you might want to use Ayahuasca to help with that depression.
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kaniz
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I tripped shortly after breaking up from a nearly 3 year relationship. I went into the trip with the mindset of wanting to get some "understanding" of the situation. I was fully aware that some rather strong emotions may come up during the trip, and was prepared to deal with them.
I was also tripping at the Harvest music festival here in Ontario, BEAUTIFUL location. It's kind of funny, 1st half of the trip - relationship/etc didnt come into my mind, it wasn't until I did a line of pure MDMA that the real emotional stuff hit me.
Spent quite a bit of time in my tent crying - but it was very cathartic, did allot of thinking, worked through quite a few emotions that I was "blocking" in sober life, came out of it feeling 100x better and thought it was worth doing.
If your going to trip after a break up, dont do it for escapist reasons - accecpt the fact you may have quite a bit of emotional baggage come up.
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sui
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: kaniz]
#8060769 - 02/23/08 02:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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kaniz said: I tripped shortly after breaking up from a nearly 3 year relationship. I went into the trip with the mindset of wanting to get some "understanding" of the situation. I was fully aware that some rather strong emotions may come up during the trip, and was prepared to deal with them.
I was also tripping at the Harvest music festival here in Ontario, BEAUTIFUL location. It's kind of funny, 1st half of the trip - relationship/etc didnt come into my mind, it wasn't until I did a line of pure MDMA that the real emotional stuff hit me.
Spent quite a bit of time in my tent crying - but it was very cathartic, did allot of thinking, worked through quite a few emotions that I was "blocking" in sober life, came out of it feeling 100x better and thought it was worth doing.
If your going to trip after a break up, dont do it for escapist reasons - accecpt the fact you may have quite a bit of emotional baggage come up.
KANIZ HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHERE YA BEEN!!!!!!!!!
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sui
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: Drewwyann]
#8060806 - 02/23/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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After my last bad breakup i wouldnt let myself deal with it sober. I could not bring myself to think about it. I just happened to have this at the time.
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so i dropped LSD mushrooms and MDxX, seperate experiences of course, because i knew that if i dosed i WOULD HAVE to think about it. It wasnt high doses or anything just enough to give me a new perspective on the situation.
It really helped me alot, but it could have easily made things worse.
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Edited by sui (02/23/08 02:53 PM)
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: sui]
#8060844 - 02/23/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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relationships have a kind of life of their own, so when one is over you may have honest grief about it. you may grieve over it like after the passing of a dear one, and for this grief the lsd will be positive adding clarity and dimension/persective.
however relationships also have a lot to do with one's sense of identity, and this makes having a relationship on the go and then not having one more challenging and confusing to the tripper.
so if you have the ability to steer towards vantage points, the one that gives you perspective on the departed thing of value is a good vantage point, but the one that spins into self abuse and concern about self image or adequacy is not going to be a helpful direction to explore.
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Kanker
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AlteredAgain said: A thorough introspection before deciding to trip after an emotional break-up would prove wisely, I think.
also, you should asses why you are tripping (not that there's anything wrong with it, but your motives may be wrong). if you are tripping hard to punish yourself / mope then obviously this is a bad idea, if not dangerous.
though it might sound a little anal, this phase of your life seems to have had an obvious impact on you. be safe, find fun, get well.
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: Kanker]
#8061128 - 02/23/08 04:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I tripped the same day I broke up with my last ex.
A couple of things come to mind -
1. Am I ever gonna get back with her? No
2. Do I want to be in the same position in that relationship as before? No
3. Was it a good or bad relationship? Bad in the end
4. Time to move on? Yes.
Game over 
Yeah, take a break, chill.
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kaniz
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: sui]
#8061688 - 02/23/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said:
KANIZ HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHERE YA BEEN!!!!!!!!!
Been busy, moved into my own place, finishing off school, have a new job. All around doing very well, just dont have time for the forums very much and taking a break from them. Poke in now and then, but dont have much time these days.
Once schools done for the term and I graduate I should be about a bit more often. Needed to clear my head from "drug culture" for a bit.
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: kaniz]
#8062095 - 02/23/08 07:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think LSD could be a good way to really work your brain after a break up. For the good or bad. I know that LSD lets me really think things through much more then sober.
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: Drewwyann]
#8062209 - 02/23/08 08:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have a break, I'd say. At low doses, you'll likely be fine, but you might always (as you said) take more than you thought and get totally mangled. I tripped on a pretty big dose of acid during a bad time with my girlfriend, and things did not go well. At one point I closed my eyes and found myself in a mental hospital where two giant bald men strapped me down, cut the top of my head off and cut my brain to bits with an electric blender. I actually felt the pain.
Now, I don't want to try and scare you, but in my opinion what you need to do is focus on living your life in a contented and happy way, totally accepting the break up and moving on before you trip. None of this is easy, but a trip that goes the wrong way can make things far worse. A small, niggling depression can take you to hell if a nasty trip exacerbates things.
I'm glad you managed to trip without any negativity. This shows you're already a good few steps down the path to totally getting over the girl. Do what you will, but in my opinion, waiting until you are absolutely certain there is no significant emotional baggage would be wise. You never can tell, though. Sometimes negativity coming up during a trip leads to it being resolved and allowed to pass away, sometimes it leads to pure horror.
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Re: LSD and break-ups [Re: EllisDSox]
#8062583 - 02/23/08 10:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I took a reasonable dose about a month after a breakup, and it ruined my first Widespread Panic show. Shit, this chick started rubbing up against me and asking if I had any guns in my pocket and I told her to go the fuck away.
That's my experience with the idea, results always vary.
(Dallas, 7-20-2003, the field outside the stadium got set on fire and my tripping ass was trying to ask all the cops and firefighters where the bus station was.)
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There are no "best practices" or guidelines for relationships nor psychedelic pioneering.
Yr reality is an experiment; manipulate it, destroy it, expand it, reveal it. As long as yr willing to be flexible and passive, there should be no "negative-effects" of tripping.
What do I know, though? Just one psychomystic to'nother.
Take care, however.
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PFunkadelic
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Quote:
AnarchoTrip said: There are no "best practices" or guidelines for relationships nor psychedelic pioneering.
Yr reality is an experiment; manipulate it, destroy it, expand it, reveal it. As long as yr willing to be flexible and passive, there should be no "negative-effects" of tripping.
What do I know, though? Just one psychomystic to'nother.
Take care, however.
As long as your able to be flexible and passive. And a traumatic breakup can remove this sort of emotional self control from most people.
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Cant comment directly on break-ups (I tend to get over them faster than most), but for me, if I have any life problems looming over me, they come up in a trip.
I once tripped the day before I had major knee surgery and even though a knee surgery is almost 100% non-life-threatening, it ruined the trip. I could not get over the feeling of having an unresolved issue or that something was missing. That eventually led to anxiety and eventually resulted in lots of contemplation on what would happen after the surgery was over. This, for obvious reasons, didn't help anything because the surgery was going to happen whether I wanted it to or not.
I would say that if you are able to realistically deal with your problems while tripping, you have nothing to worry about. However, I do believe that having life problems will increase the likelihood of having a bad trip.
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