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 zappaisgod
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 Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo...  [Re: Arp]
#8052024 - 02/21/08 02:00 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well? Who's dropping bombs and creating mayhem?
In re Milosovic, beats me how many people he killed but I think prosecuting him for 391 doesn't mean or imply that that was all he killed. Maybe that was just one town. It only takes one conviction to fry his ass.
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: zappaisgod]
#8052117 - 02/21/08 02:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nato raids Kosovo Islamic charity
Nato-led peacekeepers in Kosovo have detained several people after searching the offices of an American-based Islamic charity suspected of supporting international terrorism.
In a statement, the Nato-led force (K-For) and United Nations police said they conducted searches at two offices belonging to the charity, the Global Relief Foundation.
They said the foundation "is suspected of supporting worldwide terrorist activities and is allegedly involved in planning attacks against targets in the US and Europe".
The foundation - which raises about $5m a year for projects, mainly in Muslim countries - has denied being involved in any illegal activities.
The Nato statement said the raids - in the capital Pristina and at Djakovica - took place after they received "credible intelligence information".
A quantity of documents and equipment from the offices was also seized.
Under scrutiny
The statement said the investigation was continuing.
The Global Relief Foundation is based in Chicago but has a European headquarters in Brussels.
It was among several Islamic aid groups put under scrutiny by the US Government after the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington.
Kosovo has been under UN administration since Serb forces were driven out by Nato's 1999 bombing campaign.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1712216.stm
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: zappaisgod]
#8052451 - 02/21/08 03:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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so what if melosivic was only charged for 391 murders personally. he was still convicted of the crime in the end. not even Saddam was convicted of all his crimes before he was executed and he was not tried for all of the murders he personally sanctioned, not even close to the actual figures. there were far more than 391 people killed before NATO moved in. the point still remains that they were the leaders of nations responsible for mass murders.
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The citizens & governments of just about all other of the wealthiest 20-25 nations are more generous.
Link?
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Virus_with_Shoes
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: Redstorm]
#8053339 - 02/21/08 07:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
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The citizens & governments of just about all other of the wealthiest 20-25 nations are more generous.
Link?
Check out earlier in the thread.
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Thanks, I missed that.
I still think the idea of criticizing the US for giving a smaller percentage of their GDP is disingenuous at best. Regardless of how large the US economy is, we still give more than any other country.
Thinking that we should be giving a certain percentage leads to the thinking that foreign countries are somehow owed foreign aid, which is what I don't like. Charitable giving should be a voluntary gift, not something like tipping a waitress.
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: Redstorm]
#8053566 - 02/21/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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SlashOZ
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300 million american citizens, roughly
over 6 billion people in the world.
57% of all food aid comes from one country, guess which one kiddies?
thats right its the biggest asshole ever, u.s.!
i'd say per person the united states is kicking the shit out of basically everyone else, combined.
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EntheogenicPeace
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: SlashOZ]
#8053969 - 02/21/08 09:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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skydog
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Don't you think it would be more stabilizing & sustainable to local & regional economies (not to mention more practical in meeting the direct needs of the local populace) for farmers in poor areas to grow essential food crops for people as locally as possible instead of growing coffee, coca, opium & bananas for export? Why don't they? Do you think that certain policies influence this? Do you think that certain nations want to hinder cultivation of grains elsewhere so that they are almost certain to have a market for their heavily government-subsidized surplus grains?
Perhaps it is the economic principle of comparative advantage?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage
Coffee, coca, opium, bananas, etc. are all more cheaply and efficiently grown in places other that the US, so we don't really bother to grow them. Likewise, the US can produce some goods more easily and efficiently than other countries. Trade creates value, etc.
Therefore, economically speaking, it makes sense to operate this way. However, I understand what you're saying. I suppose it could only happen if the world would disregard the economic benefits and consider the welfare of those third world nations? 
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8056993 - 02/22/08 03:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was looking at some picture galleries today which are full of pictures of people in downtown Pristina, the capital of Kosovo waving American flags all over the place. They love us there.
Hey! Just like those Iraqi's and pulling down Saddam's statue. Oh yes, the Kosovans love US.
http://origin1.contracostatimes.com/nationandworld/ci_8334776?nclick_check=1
Hah, the article describes them as football hooligans. No, if they were, then the violence would be after a football match.
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There were fears that Serbian soccer hooligans, the same ones who attacked the U.S. and other embassies in Belgrade, were among those on the buses. Some of the hooligans apparently managed to evade the blockade, leading the clashes at the bridge.
Kosovo Serbs have been venting their anger over Kosovo's statehood by destroying U.N. and NATO property, setting off hand grenades and staging noisy rallies.
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Of course the Serbs from Kosova are mad.
The Serbs are the same people who were killing the Albanians in Kosovo in 1999! Of course they don't want to see the part of Serbia that they live in secede from their former country.
The fact remains that the vast majority of the people in the new land, the Albanians that they we stepped in to protect in '99 seem to have a good opinion of the United States.
Is that really so hard for you to accept?
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8057239 - 02/22/08 04:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, someone usually will not burn the flag of a country who is making what they want possible. This doesn't mean that the US is doing anything good or noble which should be admired, chances are high that the US is just being its blundering dumb old self again.
Not to say feel bad about your country, but the issue of Kosovo is an unsound place to look for pride.
Edited by Disco Cat (02/22/08 05:15 PM)
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Your reply to my question in Africa is full of conjecture.By the way,its America's fault about the debt of Africa? Your right, no other power such as Belgium or the Portuguese did anything to cause any strife there.........
If America gives money to Africa its wrong, if it doesn't, its still wrong.......but I have to consider the source.
If America didn't have humanitarian motives in Africa, why are we giving them money? I guess its some huge conspiracy to "keep'em down". I am also sure you could point out the huge econmoic gain from this aid, we are currently providing them.
Also, what other country does more for Africa then the USA?? Please enlighten me. I'm sure you will be able to cite foreign governments actually canceling the debt of that nation proactively.
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: skydog]
#8057393 - 02/22/08 05:04 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: SirTripAlot]
#8057457 - 02/22/08 05:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Well, They Love Us In Kosovo... [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8058948 - 02/23/08 12:30 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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