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KrishnaDreamer
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: Middleman]
#8061595 - 02/23/08 05:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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KrishnaDreamer said: well, when you meditate it induces your mind to operate at alpha frequencies, same as dreaming (i think), which is a relaxed state of being, which would more likely make one have a good trip.
FTR, Alpha brain waves = fully alert, Theta waves = dreaming.
It's the way the brain combines and moves between wavelengths that determines consciousness, not the wavelengths themselves.
Someone tripping will have high Alpha and low Theta waves in different parts of the brain at the same time.
I've found meditation to be a way of achieving similar states of awareness as tripping, only autonomously and much more clear and coherent.
Meditation is not a way of gaining control over thought, but a way of reducing thought's control, imo.
thanks for clearing that up. 
and i don't really see meditation as one sitting cross-legged staring into their third eye. meditation in my opinion is anything that puts you in the "now", such as sports or physical activities, or reading. anything concerning relaxation could be considered meditation as well, such as a sauna or breath control exercises.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#8061682 - 02/23/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Congradulations OP, you've mastered the ability to suck. You'll be lucky to ever get to level one if you let my words discenter you.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: poof]
#8062022 - 02/23/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LOL...meditation schmeditation. 
That being said I do like to try to prepare my mind before I trip. If I find that I'm preoccupied with a lot of negative thoughts it'll lead to a bad trip and I will hold off.
But only if you meditate? Gimme a f'ing break...
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#8062245 - 02/23/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sometimes I'm stressed out, I just want to skin up and get blazed. Meditation when I'm stressed out just is not going to happen.
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i totally agree with visionary. i think a lot, from the time i wake up to the time i go to sleep. the closest thing to meditation i have found is dancing, thats the only time my mind is quiet and i love that more than anything.
well said, both of you.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: large_dose]
#8062290 - 02/23/08 08:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think meditating is definitely not as easy. At first, attempting to meditate is like trying to find a door in a dark room you're unfamiliar with. Psychedelics are like using a flame thrower to light the way to the door.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: citricacidx]
#8062399 - 02/23/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay thread 
puss!
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: citricacidx]
#8062445 - 02/23/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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citricacidx said: I think meditating is definitely not as easy. At first, attempting to meditate is like trying to find a door in a dark room you're unfamiliar with. Psychedelics are like using a flame thrower to light the way to the door.
Too heavy a dose and the door flies open, you get sucked out, and it locks behind you... For awhile.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: HighHat]
#8062572 - 02/23/08 10:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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citricacidx said: I think meditating is definitely not as easy. At first, attempting to meditate is like trying to find a door in a dark room you're unfamiliar with. Psychedelics are like using a flame thrower to light the way to the door.
Too heavy a dose and the door flies open, you get sucked out, and it locks behind you... For awhile.
Not only the floors, but the walls and ceiling as well. Then you're really fucked cause no longer are you in a dark room, you're now in the void.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: citricacidx]
#8063450 - 02/24/08 07:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This threads pretty waaaaaaacccckkkkkkk.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: anyone420]
#8063913 - 02/24/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Summary of this thread: Bash the arrogant idiot, discuss meditation and personal links to psychedelics, make up metaphors.
The end.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#8064143 - 02/24/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's probably been said before but i can't rememeber the exact phrasing of this statement but something like this:
Use the drug to examine the top of the mountain, spend the next ten years achieving the same level of understanding/enlightenment from within.
I agree with that philosophy. not the other way around. Psychedelics really show us what the mind is capable of it's up to us to get ourselves back to that place without the use of the drug. that's just my 2 cents.
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: HighHat]
#8065831 - 02/24/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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HighHat said: Summary of this thread: Bash the arrogant idiot, discuss meditation and personal links to psychedelics, make up metaphors.
The end.
qft
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citricacidx
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: HighHat]
#8066770 - 02/24/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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HighHat said: Summary of this thread: Bash the arrogant idiot, discuss meditation and personal links to psychedelics, make up metaphors.
The end.
Dude... those are similes, not metaphors
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yageman
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: citricacidx]
#8066903 - 02/24/08 11:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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citricacidx said:
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HighHat said: Summary of this thread: Bash the arrogant idiot, discuss meditation and personal links to psychedelics, make up metaphors.
The end.
Dude... those are similes, not metaphors
same thing basically.
A metaphore is: a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”
dumbass
Some stuff is like other stuff......lol
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: yageman]
#8067168 - 02/25/08 12:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yageman said:
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citricacidx said:
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HighHat said: Summary of this thread: Bash the arrogant idiot, discuss meditation and personal links to psychedelics, make up metaphors.
The end.
Dude... those are similes, not metaphors
same thing basically.
A metaphore is: a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”
dumbass
Some stuff is like other stuff......lol
ninny
similar, but not the same
A simile is: a form of expression using `like' or `as', in which one thing is compared to another which it only resembles in one or a small number of ways: "How like the winter hath my absence been" or "So are you to my thoughts as food to life"
dumbass
Some stuff is like other stuff......lol
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: citricacidx]
#8067196 - 02/25/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"like" being the word.
Thanks for giving me "the word" i understand, but yer a dumb suckhard.
serry..............
ya fuggin ninny
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citricacidx
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: yageman]
#8067206 - 02/25/08 12:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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apparently someone didn't do well in grammar.
I like that I replied with a joke and you took it seriously
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: citricacidx]
#8067291 - 02/25/08 12:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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im just saying some stuff is like other stuff, and you are a ninny.
serry.
funny joke by the way. fucking hilarious
About you being a ninny: dont make this truth into something I have to defend You really are.
No big deal. Keep sucking hard! yay
Dont worry about it and ya, I know what those words mean and how they sort of differ.
Dumbass.................
I was only trying to call you a ninny, and a sort of bitch.
its all good.
Sorry I ditched "grammar class"............lol Too busy smoking nugs.
Yer still a ninny sort of bitch.
I just had to say that.
Its my fault that I thought what you wrote was dumb as hell, ninny-like, and irrelevant.
Really though, after what you just said im not so sure you understand how words work.
This post says you cant meet someone half way and are kinda slow.
Im sort of kidding too you know.
I just think yer a custy.
Thanks for the info though.
Edited by yageman (02/25/08 01:07 AM)
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: yageman]
#8067605 - 02/25/08 04:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread is even waccckkkkkerrrrrr since i was last here. Grammar wars..? Really...?
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Re: you shouldnt be allowed psychedelics til you meditate [Re: anyone420]
#8067673 - 02/25/08 05:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another thread I'm going to have to call shenanagins on.
Oh and as a former English teacher I really have to say that there is a big difference between similes and metaphors - the former is a comparative form of description the latter is a tranference of implicit qualities to poetically embue meaning.
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