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jonogt
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turbinado sugar alone for LCs
#8053659 - 02/21/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I got a few packets of it when I was at starbucks the other day and I was planning to use it with monstermitch's recipe. Then I found a couple threads on here about using it without any other nutrient source... around 5g per 240mL of water. Agar had a long thread about success with it, and a lot of people seemed to be getting in on it. No sediment or clowdyness like honey, no suckiness like karo, and much easier to get ahold of at any old grocery store than dextrose/malt.
The threads I saw about it were from about a year ago, and I can't even seem to find a mention of it in more recent postings. Why is this? I think I remember Tahoe saying he was going to give it a shot. Tahoe did that work out well for you?
I want to make a few with it this weekend unless there's some reason I should not. Is anyone still doing this? If not, why has it taken a back seat on the forum?
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FooMan



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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: jonogt]
#8054019 - 02/21/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It works great exactly the way Agar described at one 5 gram packet per 240ml's of water:

I'm sure Mitch's LC works great, but you don't need to use multiple sugar sources to make a good one. Follow the directions as Agar stated and you get a nice, clear LC that makes it easier to spot contams.
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tight
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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: FooMan]
#8054105 - 02/21/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not to be nitpicky or anything but the actual sugar never weighs out to 5 grams (maybe im just dumb and 5 grams is the net weight including the package). It usually comes out to ~4.6 grams. I add the sugar to distilled water (not important) at 3% ratio and its worked for me a few times now.
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blood4blood
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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: tight]
#8054126 - 02/21/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i never have had any luck with raw sugar and honey lc's. i started using light grain malt at 1/2 teaspoon per 500 ml of water and will never go back
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FooMan



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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: tight]
#8054185 - 02/21/08 09:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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tight said: Not to be nitpicky or anything but the actual sugar never weighs out to 5 grams (maybe im just dumb and 5 grams is the net weight including the package). It usually comes out to ~4.6 grams. I add the sugar to distilled water (not important) at 3% ratio and its worked for me a few times now.
My apologies, that four tenths of a gram could have devastating effects on the LC!
1 packet per 240ml's works fine, regardless of the net weight. You can use more, but I've noticed that the water will start yellowing at around a 5%+ concentration. You'll get more myc growth, but I don't like the piss color, which is why I started using Turbinado in the first place.
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jonogt
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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: FooMan]
#8054632 - 02/21/08 11:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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sweet deal thanks guys.
2 more quick things...
I don't have enough actual stir bars to go around, so I'll probably try and find some nice sized dowel pins at the hardware store. Will regular steel or galvanized pieces make a rusty mess in my LC? Should I try and find something that's stainles?
and, is epoxy safe for myc at the temps a PC reaches? or would it possibly release toxins? real stir bars have a kinda elevated ring around the middle to give it an axis of rotation for less friction, and I was thinking mimic this with a bead of epoxy all the way around the middle of the pin or w/e I decide to use. safe or do i need to find something else?
thanks for the info -Jon
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FooMan



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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: jonogt]
#8054682 - 02/21/08 11:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some stirrers don't have magnets inside of them, they rely on the bars being magnetized. Some stirrers that do have magnets in them don't have strong enough magnets to spin non-magnetized metals, which I found out when I attempted to use nails covered in silicone. Your best bet is to just buy some real bars.
Here is a link to some cheap ones:
http://www.cynmar.com/SearchByKeyword.aspx?word=STIRRING%20BAR
I use the cheapest ones they have( at the bottom), which don't have the elevated ring, but they still work great. I believe the minimum order is $20-25, so get a bunch if you do buy some.
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dumbfounded1600
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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: FooMan]
#8054728 - 02/21/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Terbinado is the closest you'll ever come to Real sugar then most. It's the best in my book besides Light Malt.
In an LC...Light Malt Extract, Yeast, Dextrose, Peptone beats all those LC and Agar.
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jonogt
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I made it myself and it turns a bar magnet with the 10 outa 10 rating on strength that you see at hobby lobby and such. It'll make vortex more than halfway deep in a 2 liter pitcher of water with a snipped off piece of coat hanger as the stir bar (most annoying fucking sound in the world using that lol), so I'm sure strength/connectivity won't be an issue. I just don't want them to corode and get gross or poison my myc
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cosmoline
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dumbfounded1600 said: Terbinado is the closest you'll ever come to Real sugar then most. It's the best in my book besides Light Malt.
In an LC...Light Malt Extract, Yeast, Dextrose, Peptone beats all those LC and Agar.
Can you point me in the direction of a tek that includes yeast and peptone? I love dex/malt
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blood4blood
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Re: turbinado sugar alone for LCs [Re: cosmoline]
#8055252 - 02/22/08 05:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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cosmoline said:
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dumbfounded1600 said: Terbinado is the closest you'll ever come to Real sugar then most. It's the best in my book besides Light Malt.
In an LC...Light Malt Extract, Yeast, Dextrose, Peptone beats all those LC and Agar.
Can you point me in the direction of a tek that includes yeast and peptone? I love dex/malt
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7887928/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/2
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