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AlteredAgain
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What do you trust?
#8051927 - 02/21/08 01:41 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I trust the cycles of life, the circle, the seasons and from that evidence, the potentiality that the soul, my seat of experience, has its cycle too, after my body dies, to be born someplace new. When winter ends, I see that spring begins. Therefore I trust nature.
An alternative to the "What do I fear" thread:
What do you trust?
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druqs
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myself and people a trust.
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Broooodward
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: druqs]
#8051998 - 02/21/08 01:55 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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i trust science and logic... and america and god and george bush. Well, the first two.
-------------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: druqs]
#8052005 - 02/21/08 01:56 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I just thought about that for a minute and I'm pretty much having a nervous breakdown now... I'll post an actual response later if I calm down.
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Colbadol
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that kind of logical reasoning..the cyclical nature of things is what most early religions were based off of. It's very nature and fertility oriented.
Hell, this is what leds the mayans to produce one of times most complex calenders ever.
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: mayfly]
#8052057 - 02/21/08 02:06 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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mayfly said: I just thought about that for a minute and I'm pretty much having a nervous breakdown now... I'll post an actual response later if I calm down.
Please share when you're ready.
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Prisoner#1
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Quote:
Broooodward said: i trust science
science is often wrong, medical science even more so
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druqs
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8052090 - 02/21/08 02:16 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Broooodward said: i trust science
science is often wrong, medical science even more so
yes but the amazing thing about science (unlike religion) is that it enjoys being wrong so that it can improve and evolve.
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: druqs]
#8052106 - 02/21/08 02:20 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I've been recently pondering on 'trust' towards females,the past months I've been experiencing some foul shit I don't know if i'll ever build some trust again like i did with my ex.This sucks balls,I'm pretty suspicious of their motives heavily now even if their super nice.
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I trust in progress. I trust that there is something out there or in here which transmutes chaos into order.
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-------------------- "In the beginning, I had no name. i was a shape, a snarling shadow of the Old World which slipped into this existence" - Steven Erikson "Our progress as a species rests squarely on the shoulders of that tenth person. The nine are satisfied with things they are told are valuable. Person 10 determines for himself what has value." - My good friend Za -
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Sell Your Soul
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That sure is a loaded question! I trust all that is a known source of fact.
When it comes to people, I trust those who have provided numerous examples of why they can be trusted. Once their trust is in question, I can never fully trust them again, unless they can prove that it was only a misunderstanding.
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: druqs]
#8052144 - 02/21/08 02:33 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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mycelismymind said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Broooodward said: i trust science
science is often wrong, medical science even more so
yes but the amazing thing about science (unlike religion) is that it enjoys being wrong so that it can improve and evolve.
untrue for the field of medicine
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Kada
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This is a sad thing to realize. I don't trust anything or anyone. I trust people close to me to a certain degree, but i don't trust them completely. I don't believe anything i read, anything anyone says, or everything i even see. There have been events in my life that make me like this. Do i even trust myself? I don't know. I want to say yes, but in certain circumstances would i trust myself to act accordingly? I hope i can.
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: Kada]
#8052164 - 02/21/08 02:39 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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There are degrees of trust: Would I trust a stranger to return a pen that I lent him? Yes. Would I trust a stranger to keep my phone number confidential? No. Would I trust the girls in my avatar to keep me horny? Definitely!
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Broooodward
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: druqs]
#8052172 - 02/21/08 02:42 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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mycelismymind said:
yes but the amazing thing about science (unlike religion) is that it enjoys being wrong so that it can improve and evolve.
Well said!
-------------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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aDoS
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I trust my penis
-------------------- "If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: aDoS]
#8052302 - 02/21/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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aDoS said: I trust my penis
You're an idiot.
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I trust the fact I will die someday. And ummmmm... Man this is tough...
I don't guess I really trust anything else...
And science? I trust it about as much as I trust religion. And I trust religion about as much as I trust crackheyud bums in front of Best Buy.
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Broooodward
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you trust science as much as religion? Those two couldn't be farther from each other. PLease explain How is science in the same boat as religion?
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RipVanWinkle
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In some ways science IS a religion as far as I'm concerned.
"This study published in blahblah shows this, so suchnsuch MUST be true!" "The bible says Jesus is the son of God, so it MUST be true!"
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Prisoner#1
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Quote:
Broooodward said: you trust science as much as religion? Those two couldn't be farther from each other. PLease explain How is science in the same boat as religion?
because both are polar opposites, just look at the theory of relativity and theory of evolution, both theories still but both being touted as the gospel by followers of science
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That's not the way science is meant to be taken, though. "Believing" in science is contradictory to everything scientific. I trust in the scientific method as a good way of determining fact, but I don't "believe" in it. Belief implies faith, which implies (at least to me) ignorance of fact.
Anyways, I think I've figured out what I trust, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I've always been pretty naive and I've always tried to assume the best of people, but lately I've been getting less and less trusting. For example, I don't trust my friends (despite few of them ever doing anything to break that trust), I rarely trust mainstream news/studies/opinions/etc, and I don't trust anyone to make decisions for me (although the latter two are probably good things). I don't think I trust anything 100%, as much as I'd like to sometimes. I don't even trust myself totally, and that's a problem.
I do trust that my dad and my dogs will love me no matter what. I'd like to think that of my boyfriend, too, but how can I be sure?
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: mayfly]
#8052424 - 02/21/08 03:46 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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mayfly said: That's not the way science is meant to be taken, though. "Believing" in science is contradictory to everything scientific. I trust in the scientific method as a good way of determining fact, but I don't "believe" in it. Belief implies faith, which implies (at least to me) ignorance of fact.
Anyways, I think I've figured out what I trust, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I've always been pretty naive and I've always tried to assume the best of people, but lately I've been getting less and less trusting. For example, I don't trust my friends (despite few of them ever doing anything to break that trust), I rarely trust mainstream news/studies/opinions/etc, and I don't trust anyone to make decisions for me (although the latter two are probably good things). I don't think I trust anything 100%, as much as I'd like to sometimes. I don't even trust myself totally, and that's a problem.
I do trust that my dad and my dogs will love me no matter what. I'd like to think that of my boyfriend, too, but how can I be sure?
I think we both have the trust thing in common. It was a shock to realize that myself.
-------------------- ~The Cultivators Motherload~ "I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein "There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama Live long and prosper.
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: mayfly]
#8052429 - 02/21/08 03:48 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Oh yeah, I trust my dogs too for the most part.
And I don't trust the scientific method either, as I'm a pretty firm believer that anything is possible, which is one reason I don't really trust anything.
I "trust" my dogs, but who knows, they could get rabies someday and attack me.
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: Kada]
#8052432 - 02/21/08 03:48 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Yeah, it's really not something I think about on a regular basis. I don't know if I should try to work on changing it or accepting it or what? Maybe it's better just to go on being oblivious and ignorant? I don't like that idea though.
edited repeatedly for stupid grammatical mistakes.
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Edited by mayfly (02/21/08 03:53 PM)
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Quote:
bradmassive said:
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aDoS said: I trust my penis
You're an idiot.
no you are
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bradmassive
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Re: What do you trust? [Re: aDoS]
#8052463 - 02/21/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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aDoS said:
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bradmassive said:
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aDoS said: I trust my penis
You're an idiot.
no you are
Thanks a bunch.
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