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rawtoxic
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#7970137 - 02/02/08 07:34 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Finishing transaction outside ebay is best policy sometimes
I have a seperate bank account that I never have more than $50 in linked to my ebay account I would suggest everyone using ebay do the same this offers some protection.
Actually I feel paypal offers good buyer protection everytime I've filed a legit claim with a problem I get a refund, but sometimes if the seller does not have money in there account for the refund paypal refuses to refund it, then you go to your credit card company and show the goods were never received and you will always win the dispute at least with my card company (AMEX)
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043139 - 02/19/08 02:41 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Today I got a call from NCO, a collection agency owned by Verizon. The lady was a stupid bitch of the fist degree, and after explaining why it is not me who is responsible for the buyer's own debt to paypal she started reciting Paypal's idiotic fairytale about how my issue is with the buyer, and how I need to get them to pay up.
I told her I'm not paying, and she threatened "then your account will sit here and rot" and that I'd be marked with bad credit (on Paypal? don't give a fuck). I said I couldn't care less if a Paypal account rotted since I'm never touching the shit-thing again, and then she threatened "we'll call you every day, I have some people here who've been holding out for over a year, they get called every day," in an absolutely attemptively intimidating tone. I just hung up on her.
My thirst for suing Paypal is now greater than ever, and I don't care what is said in their user policy about having to go to Cali if I want to take them to court, or whatever else. There has to be a way to succeed, there have to be laws outside of Paypal that trump their claims of being able to do whatever shit treatment they want to sellers.
I'd love to sue NCO or Verizon aswell, on grounds of harassment, and maybe this can be done if I bear enough of their moronic calls and record them.
Again, help me sue. I can't see this going away until it happens.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043662 - 02/19/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 22 hours ago) |
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If it shows up on your credit report, you can dispute it.
If the bitch calls again tell her you are familiar with the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act. If you told the collector you have no intention of paying, they can't call anymore. Once you file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, you can sue for harassment and then use the judgment to pay the debt.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043749 - 02/19/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 21 hours ago) |
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Pull a Jim Florentine and fuck with them every time they call. Record it and put it on the net. I'd listen to it for sure, dude.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043822 - 02/19/08 05:51 PM (16 years, 21 hours ago) |
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Paypal owe YOU $400 not the other way round!
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043842 - 02/19/08 05:56 PM (16 years, 21 hours ago) |
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first step is to print everything related to this.
and althow you signed a contract, laws very state to state and i believe a contract has to be just and fair, so you might be able to make them come to court in your state...IF your the one who files the lawsuit. make sure its you before them if thats the route your going.
also what paypal says is stupid, you have a contract through EBAY that says he DID want the product.
honestly i would sease all communication right now and go stright to court.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: makaveli8x8]
#8043850 - 02/19/08 05:58 PM (16 years, 21 hours ago) |
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oh and don't forget all your phone, email, ect is recorded...be respectful because it will be brought up in court
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043952 - 02/19/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 21 hours ago) |
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Quote:
Disco Cat said: Today I got a call from NCO, a collection agency owned by Verizon. The lady was a stupid bitch of the fist degree, and after explaining why it is not me who is responsible for the buyer's own debt to paypal she started reciting Paypal's idiotic fairytale about how my issue is with the buyer, and how I need to get them to pay up.
I told her I'm not paying, and she threatened "then your account will sit here and rot" and that I'd be marked with bad credit (on Paypal? don't give a fuck). I said I couldn't care less if a Paypal account rotted since I'm never touching the shit-thing again, and then she threatened "we'll call you every day, I have some people here who've been holding out for over a year, they get called every day," in an absolutely attemptively intimidating tone. I just hung up on her.
My thirst for suing Paypal is now greater than ever, and I don't care what is said in their user policy about having to go to Cali if I want to take them to court, or whatever else. There has to be a way to succeed, there have to be laws outside of Paypal that trump their claims of being able to do whatever shit treatment they want to sellers.
I'd love to sue NCO or Verizon aswell, on grounds of harassment, and maybe this can be done if I bear enough of their moronic calls and record them.
Again, help me sue. I can't see this going away until it happens.
Fuck ya! This situation sucks, but i would take a lot of satisfaction telling those fuckers where to stick it! I hope everything turns out OK.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8044253 - 02/19/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 20 hours ago) |
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they won't sue you, if anything they'll put it on your credit.. I scammed people with a paypal account a few years ago before I was 18 and the account was negative and nothing ever happened, they just locked it.
fuck collection agencies, I think I could make those fuckers never want to call me again if they tried to pull some shit like that
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#8044384 - 02/19/08 07:41 PM (16 years, 19 hours ago) |
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I hate to re-iterate, but everything I posted is true. It's practically a step-by-step on how to solve this issue.
If anything shows up on your credit report, dispute it.
If they call again, refuse to pay. Once you refuse to pay, it is against the law for them to harass you. Tell the operator that you are familiar with the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
Once they call again and they will, find a lawyer that specializes in Fair Debt Collections Practices Act. The lawyer will help you file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission and help you sue NCO. Since NCO is harassing you and not Paypal, you will not be bound by Paypal's contract to meet in California.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#8044534 - 02/19/08 08:07 PM (16 years, 19 hours ago) |
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Just make sure that you prank the people who call you and record it. Then upload it for us to hear.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#8044675 - 02/19/08 08:33 PM (16 years, 18 hours ago) |
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Alright, I'll follow that advice. I've already told both her and Paypal that I'm not paying, so if I get one more phonecall I should be in the position to take action. I wish I had some method of recording the calls tho.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Learyfan]
#8044698 - 02/19/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 18 hours ago) |
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Yeah, I'd like to do that. I plan to phone Paypal's customer service and let them know that I turned down NCO's offer to pay them, and that they wasted money on their service. Also, I want to mention that the lady suggested I sue Paypal, and ask if a low education is their reason for working for such a scumbag company. I'll also tell them that I've had no choice but to indefinitely freeze their business opportunity of receiving the benefit of my use of their service until they've paid up my account, + $400 extra in stupidity fees. I also want to tell paypal's cus. service individual detailed stories about people I told should not use paypal, and how they listened and accepted my advice.
But I don't know how I can record my phonecalls.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8045056 - 02/19/08 09:46 PM (16 years, 17 hours ago) |
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Disco Cat said: Alright, I'll follow that advice. I've already told both her and Paypal that I'm not paying, so if I get one more phonecall I should be in the position to take action. I wish I had some method of recording the calls tho.
Just record the date and time is enough. According to the law the collector has to identify themselves when asked.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#8045350 - 02/19/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 16 hours ago) |
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speakerphone + recorder
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: makaveli8x8]
#8048133 - 02/20/08 04:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: speakerphone + recorder
Yeah, but people do it professionally somehow. The Jim Florentine and the Touch Tone Terrorists somehow record it very professionally. I wish I knew how to tell you to do it. I guess if I knew how to do it, I'd be recording my calls already.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Learyfan]
#8048194 - 02/20/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was once working in a lawyers office and they had a little box that sat on the floor hooked inbetween the phone line and the phone. The phone person would hit the button with their foot to record.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Stizzle]
#8048252 - 02/20/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, I remember seeing a device like that in that Harriet Carter book.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Learyfan]
#8050849 - 02/21/08 08:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes look at spy sites and stuff they are for sale all over I have one for my landline as for cell phones I don't know.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: makaveli8x8]
#8051913 - 02/21/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The only recording device I have is the microphones hooked up to my computer, which is pretty far from the phone base without any phone jacks nearby. Meh.
Also, they're continuing to phone.
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