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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: bradmassive]
    #8052158 - 02/21/08 02:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's his chosen career, why should he not be required to do his job?


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: Ferris]
    #8052170 - 02/21/08 02:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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It's his chosen career, why should he not be required to do his job?




The reason he is over there is illegal and unconstituional, thats why.


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: bradmassive]
    #8052175 - 02/21/08 02:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How so?


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: Ferris]
    #8052180 - 02/21/08 02:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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How so?




I'm not here to educate you. Go read your constitution.


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: bradmassive]
    #8052211 - 02/21/08 02:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I take it you are a strict constitutionalist? The war is legal in terms of how the constitution has been interpreted by the courts. Although I agree with you in that it should change to a more limited interpretation, anyone joining the military should be aware of the reality of how the government is functioning, and in this case, a war there has been a definite possibility for decades.


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: Ferris]
    #8052239 - 02/21/08 02:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I take it you are a strict constitutionalist? The war is legal in terms of how the constitution has been interpreted by the courts. Although I agree with you in that it should change to a more limited interpretation, anyone joining the military should be aware of the reality of how the government is functioning, and in this case, a war there has been a definite possibility for decades.




I'm not a strict anything. You asked me why it was unconsitutional and 'illegal' according even to international law. I told you to go and at least educate yourself on the constitution. I think those troops should come home as they have been hoodwinked into an illegal position. Any peititon that comes my way, I will sign it. Simple as that.


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: bradmassive]
    #8052247 - 02/21/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think every country should send their troops to other countries, like a student exchange program. send all U.S. troops to Switzerland, all Swedish troops to Japan, all Brazilian troops to Ukraine and so on. ALL the troops.


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: bradmassive]
    #8052266 - 02/21/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've read the constitution several times (in fact, I have a paper copy right here) and am aware of the war powers of congress and the executive ability to sign treaties, but if you think that our government runs solely based off the words in the constitution, then you have a sore misunderstanding of how the government is run.

(All I did was ask you to defend your statement, I'm all ears for rational responses, even if I disagree with them. But telling me to try to guess what your meaning is is just ridiculous. I'm not trying to antagonize you, and I hope you're not doing so to me. Forgive me if I've misinterpreted your actions, these instances occur on the internet sometimes).


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: Ferris]
    #8052298 - 02/21/08 03:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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but if you think that our government runs solely based off the words in the constitution, then you have a sore misunderstanding of how the government is run.






I don't for a second think the government does at all. But I certainly think that the president and all congressmen that 'swear' on the consitituion should take a look at the fucking thing!


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Re: Burn, Baby, Burn! [Re: bradmassive]
    #8052729 - 02/21/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

He's in the Air Force Reserve. It is his duty by whatever contract he signed to do his two weeks a year or whatever, but they never seem to stop calling his unit up.


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