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Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins
    #8051023 - 02/21/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe next time with both the Betamax and HD-DVD fiascos behind them, the industry's morons will cooperate and save millions of dollars and lots of consumer confusion.

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Japanese corporation Toshiba surrendered to Sony’s Blu-Ray technology and released a statement announcing the end of the road for the HD DVD. Toshiba says however that HD DVD consumers will continue to have full product support despite the decision not to develop and manufacture HD DVD players anymore.

Toshiba Corp. will put an end to the HD DVD business by the end of March 2008, which includes besides players and recorders, HD DVD disk drives for PC applications and games. However, the company will continue to support and develop the standard DVD format, regardless of what is going to happen to the HD DVD market.

“We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called ‘next-generation format war’ and concluded that a swift decision will be best help the market develop,” Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation, said according to the company’s press release. “While we are disappointed … Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality.”

Since the beginning of this year, several retailers took the decision to swear allegiance to the Blu-Ray, including Woolworths and Wal-Mart, and despite Toshiba’s announcement that it will stay devoted to the HD DVD format, the inevitable happened. Analysts expected Toshiba’s move sooner or later, as Blu-Ray became a market’s favorite.

Several attempts to find a common solution and promote a single format brought Sony and Toshiba to absolutely no agreement, and Blu-Ray continued to make its way to the top. Despite several announcements in the past few months of companies such as Warner Bros. Entertainment or China Film Group that they’ve decided to turn exclusively to Blu-Ray format, Toshiba said it will continue the collaboration with Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Animation, Intel, Microsoft and HP in the future, “utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.”

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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Diploid]
    #8051272 - 02/21/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I actually have a betamax somewhere...


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
    #8051451 - 02/21/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

guess the hd-dvd drive in my lap top is useless.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: nk pakelika]
    #8051519 - 02/21/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i totaly predicted this
sony and disney were pushing it and u cant compete with them


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: nk pakelika]
    #8052097 - 02/21/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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nk pakelika said:
guess the hd-dvd drive in my lap top is useless.




Yup, its times like this i'm glad i am too poor to be an early adopter of anything.

I like being a late-adopter. In two years or so, i'll totally go out and find a blue ray player.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Nephlyte]
    #8052303 - 02/21/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Yup, its times like this i'm glad i am too poor to be an early adopter of anything.





:lol:

very true


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Diploid]
    #8055461 - 02/22/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Guess I'm glad to be a Playstation (rather then xbox) fan now. My PS3 won't be obsolete as fast and the blu-ray's I've already purchased weren't a waste!


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #8056288 - 02/22/08 12:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It will be interesting to see how much of a "win" this really is for blu-ray. I think from a consumer perspective, blu-ray offers a lot of advantages the majority of consumers don't need.

For instance, not a lot of people will benefit from the HD format. In reality, only people with a HDTV 42" and above that is 1080p capable will notice a significant increase in quality.

I don't think a lot of people need a 50 gigabyte storage medium. Some do, but a lot of people use computers for basic activities: surfing the net, photos, email, some music, etc.

As far as video games are concerned, there really has never been a universal medium.

To top it all off solid-state drives are becoming cheaper and larger. We also have a lot of things "on demand", like HD movies.

I think SONY is congratulating themselves over winning an insignificant war.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: badchad]
    #8057304 - 02/22/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so does this mean xbox will make an external blueray drive now? furthermore, i wonder if that is why they made the hd-dvd drive external?


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: iateshaggy]
    #8058816 - 02/22/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Microsoft may make an external dvd drive, and I would laugh my ass off if they did, as they will have to pay royalties to some of their direct competitors, mainly Sony...so funny

I'm glad that blu-ray won, it is the superior format, more storage, built in machine independant java (not MS bullshit HDi), even though only used for features not yet implemented. And much more scratch resistant to boot.

Also, 'on demand' HD content is still pretty far off. As a blu-ray or hd-dvd movie is anywhere from 9-30 GB on disc. To download that information at that quality would take a long damn time, as well as hog up shit loads of bandwidth. The current hd downloads on xbox360, netflix, and what not are encoded with very lossy codecs, making them practical to download, but also making calling them HD a flat out lie.

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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: supra]
    #8058957 - 02/23/08 12:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

> but also making calling them HD a flat out lie.

In the video world, HD defines a picture size (resolution) and has nothing to do with quality.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: supra]
    #8059983 - 02/23/08 11:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah it pisses me off i can't watch divX on 360 without streaming from a computer...:mad2:


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
    #8060510 - 02/23/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's time for ultra-violet ray. Or ultr-viololz ray, because spelling colours correctly is a sin against marketing.

In two years time, your bluray players will be obsolete junk. At which point, the only sane thing to do will be to bin them and buy the new players.

VHS sucked. I did not like it. DVD players are great, but recording is iffy. Hard drive recorders are ace, but often are closed off, and you can't make copies of what you recorded.

Yay for PC's and not being the victim of proprietary locking.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #8060627 - 02/23/08 02:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Im not interested in optical disks at all, and dont want to ever buy any kind of them or player for them.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Diploid]
    #8060653 - 02/23/08 02:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That is too bad. Region encoding is bullshit.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: robbyberto]
    #8060882 - 02/23/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

as far as i'm concerned, xvid is the winner. looks great when played through me dual out video card to my 52" 1080 big screen. payed 150 for the card and the xvids are free and i get to watch them while the movie is still in the theater.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: iateshaggy]
    #8061130 - 02/23/08 04:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have nothing but problems with Xvid movies.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: iateshaggy]
    #8061304 - 02/23/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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as far as i'm concerned, xvid is the winner.  looks great when played through me dual out video card to my 52" 1080 big screen.  payed 150 for the card and the xvids are free and i get to watch them while the movie is still in the theater.



Agreed.  Sometimes I will have the actual DVD, and still prefer to DL an xvid of it.  It more convenient, doesnt need a box that takes up space on a shelf, and is just easier to use all around.  Who wins the format war?  Hard drives :cool:


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8061918 - 02/23/08 06:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I have nothing but problems with Xvid movies.




three letters...vlc, if i can't play it w/ vlc, i don't need to watch it.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
    #8062849 - 02/24/08 12:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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yeah it pisses me off i can't watch divX on 360 without streaming from a computer...:mad2:





Awesome...I just looked into this, and it's really nice.  No need to burn anything anymore.  I haven't had any sort of quality issues so far, it's working perfectly.

The only problem is that it won't play my .mkv files :sad:


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Boom]
    #8062927 - 02/24/08 12:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Im confused, why would you need a 360? You just hook your TV up to your computer right?


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: DieCommie]
    #8063175 - 02/24/08 02:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sony gives Toshiba something in return for its troubles -- Japanese Cell chip plants for $835M

...The other interesting aspect of the move is that it indicates a clear shift by Toshiba to back the PS3. The PS3, which last month outsold Microsoft's Xbox 360, previously had few ties to the company; while Microsoft's number one ally in hardware manufacturing has always been Toshiba. Toshiba manufacturers several components for the Xbox 360, including the HD DVD add-on, and the Microsoft Zune MP3 players.

Toshiba's flip-flop may have been in the cards for a while. Microsoft showed little remose as HD DVD took second place to Blu-ray; a move Toshiba must have recognized from its American ally. Now the solidified PS3 venture between Sony and Toshiba indicates that Toshiba now has switched to backing the PS3 almost exclusively, another victory for Sony...


http://www.dailytech.com/After+HD+DVD+Drop+Toshiba+Spends+835M+to+Back+PS3/article10826.htm


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: Boom]
    #8063585 - 02/24/08 08:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Awesome...I just looked into this, and it's really nice.  No need to burn anything anymore.  I haven't had any sort of quality issues so far, it's working perfectly.

The only problem is that it won't play my .mkv files :sad:




go after the kazaa+lite codec pack, it's got like 1000 of them.  I've never found a format I can't play since.


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Re: Format War Over - Blu-Ray Wins [Re: DieCommie]
    #8064843 - 02/24/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Im confused, why would you need a 360? You just hook your TV up to your computer right?




I can leave my computer running in my room, running a video server, and watch any video file I have on the computer on the TV in the other room. It's much less of a hassle.

I'm really surprised that it was so easy. I didn't have to do anything to the xbox at all, it natively supports connecting to a computer running a media server.


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