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ApJunkie
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Need a quick answer if possible
#8049987 - 02/20/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, it's the big day. I just recieved 4 cute little clones (mj of course) from a local badass and need some quick advice if you'd be so kind 
These clones are about 4" tall and in rockwool cubes and have a decent root base started. Well.... the roots aren't anything to be proud of, but they're clearly visible on the bottom/sides of the rockwool.
Should I remove the plants from the rockwool and then put them in the net pots, or is it fine to grow them in the rockwool all the way through flowering?
Thanks!
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: ApJunkie]
#8050015 - 02/20/08 11:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What ever you do dont try to remove the babies from the wool, ull kill them instantly. Just put them right into the hydro,once a week you should lightly mist the cubes with H2O2/H2O because the cubes grow algae and then the setup can get really nasty.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#8050053 - 02/20/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks a bunch man! 
Should I use the same 5-10% peroxide/water ratio that I used for shrooms?
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: ApJunkie]
#8050077 - 02/20/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sure, I have a spray bottle just full of the solution lying around but I add nutes to it too. You can spray it on the plants and the medium surfuce and it kills everything but ur plant. P.S use an organic nute blend,Your plants will love you.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#8050101 - 02/20/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yep, we've got Earth Juice Grow and Bloom. We also picked up some Meta-K but heard it's useless so I'm gonna go return it tomorrow.
I've got a .5 tablespoon/gallon ratio in there right now (wanted to mix it up weak until I knew how they liked it). That sound good, or should I up it?
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: ApJunkie]
#8050130 - 02/20/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Systematicly up it until they seem to being growing up and out at an unbelieveable rate. Check to make sure your not burning the roots or causing the plant to wither its outer most fan leafs. You shouldnt have this problem too much since your nutes are organic. Use distilled water. What type of hydro to you have/use, and lighting specs. Pics if possible please, easiest way to help you out.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#8050176 - 02/21/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've got a converted filing cabinet for my grow space, only about 3-4 sq feet (but that's fine, I'm not growing to sell, I'm just sick of paying those insane prices).
It's got a 250W HPS light with a 100CFM blower.
Oh, and the hydroponics is a 10 gallon deep water culture with an air pump running to one of those weird rock things people use in fish tanks. I've got distilled water in the right now, and it's cheap enough that'll continue to be the case I imagine.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: ApJunkie]
#8050237 - 02/21/08 12:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's one of those Giant Net pots inside a bucket setup. Pretty simple not to hard. Using Hydrotn rite. If you want a super cool sounding system then take of the air difuser(weird rock things people use in fish tanks) it makes the setup sound like a bubbler. If the inside of the cabinet has white/black poly or mylar like I hope it should, your light should be hung 2 to 3 ft above the plant(depending on bulb heat). Light Cycle should be 20on/4off for 2 weeks then progressivly add an hour to the dark phase. Once you reach 12on/12off you can just leave it there until its time to harvest. You will have to cut off the tops once they get within 1ft of the light(at maximum height). You can root thses cuttings and use them as clones for later grows.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#8050297 - 02/21/08 12:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does the switch from 20/4 to 12/12 have to be gradual like that? This cabinet has limited vertical space and I'm worried the plants will get too tall for even topping to be a viable solution. Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation... if I top the plants will they literally stop growing vertically? It seems like it'll only be a temporary fix...
Edit; and yes, it's got 6 three inch net pots in a 10 gallon rubbermaid tub.
Thanks again!
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: ApJunkie]
#8050302 - 02/21/08 12:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you take the cutting right then the place of the cut will not regrow but out reaching branchs will grow. Trust me Artificial Lighting and Hydroponics are my field. I am going to be the reason your kids will have food when they live in space.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#8050326 - 02/21/08 01:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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fuck yeah man. Hydroponics is a very legitimate research field with wide-reaching applications. Kudos! I certainly trust your opinion on this, you seem to have the stuff down.
I'll do some reading around various cultivation sites about how to top the plants because it seems like that's our only option at this point (other than Scrog, but I don't really want to try that on my first grow...).
I just took some measurements, and the plants right now are 4-6" tall and are about 2 feet away from the light. This means they can only grow about 1-1.5 feet until they're witin the danger zone(although I fully intend on installing a cooltube once they get a little taller.)
here's a pic;
Sorry that's so weird, apparently HPS does naughty things to my camera phone...
Either way, between the stripes if you can see it there's a standard 12" rules on the left side of the box for perspective.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: ApJunkie]
#8052683 - 02/21/08 04:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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To top the plants take the sharpest razor blade you have or go out and buy one. cut it so that it has enough stem to be deeply submerged( like an inch or 2) and enough leaves to continue photosyn. Place the cutting in the water/weak nute solution, no leaves shoud touch the water or go in. Place it into a dark warm place and put a humididome over it so that the leaves dont dry out. You should have beautiful ready to use clones in about 2 weeks. P.S the clone should be placed in a rockwool cube once some roots start to sprout out of the stem, the cube can then be placed back into the setup but with fresh solution.
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Re: Need a quick answer if possible [Re: ApJunkie]
#8053185 - 02/21/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
ApJunkie said:
Sorry that's so weird, apparently HPS does naughty things to my camera phone...
Either way, between the stripes if you can see it there's a standard 12" rules on the left side of the box for perspective.
a trick that i heard elsewhere on these forums, take a pair of sunglasses and put the lens right up against the camera lens to take the pic
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