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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8051694 - 02/21/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Human culture has transcended natural selection as understood by Darwin. Genocide is not even on the same playing field as "survival of the fittest." It is an abuse of power, something only humans are capable of.
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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: WScott]
#8051703 - 02/21/08 12:37 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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So a group bombs the shit of another and whipes them out with scary technology.
That group is more fit and nature grants them the prize?
How bout the "anything can happen" quantum mechanical framework that would probably points towards the idea that whatever happened in this scenario is not a reflection of any beings abilities or fitness, but rather just a twisted non-sensicle random event that reflects the randomness of the universe?
I don't think genocide and darwanistic ideologies should be intertwined because in the end it would probably attempt justify a misguided deed.
I don't give a fuck what anybody says. We will always be one and if we make ourselves believe otherwise, then we are selling ourselves fuckin short and we will continue walking in circles in this bullshit perpetual black vs. white machine that leads us nowhere.
It is yet another illusion. We have made it past the point of survival of the fittest. It is now survival of the educated. And this is not something we are born with, it is fed to us, so why not spread the beef motherfuckers?
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Quote:
Tchan909 said: Human culture has transcended natural selection as understood by Darwin. Genocide is not even on the same playing field as "survival of the fittest." It is an abuse of power, something only humans are capable of.
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MushmanTheManic
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Survival of the Fittest is phrase coined by Herbert Spencer and has nothing to do with the current theory of biological evolution.
Besides, you are committing the naturalistic fallacy by conflating a scientific theory with ethics.
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MushmanTheManic
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Human culture has transcended natural selection as understood by Darwin.
How?
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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#8053692 - 02/21/08 08:09 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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'We will always be one'
We so aren't at the same time. You've fought it out in there?? Its going on out there.
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What connects these with "vs."?
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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: Lakefingers]
#8056898 - 02/22/08 03:06 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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People make many false distinction like 'drugs and alcohol'.
When one chimp tribe attacks and slaughters another chimp tribe, some call that natural.
When one human tribe attacks and slaughters another human tribe, some call that immoral and unnatural.
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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8058405 - 02/22/08 09:06 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Well, emotion aside, I'd say that genocide such as the Holocaust could be considered weeding out the weak.
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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: Boots]
#8058425 - 02/22/08 09:13 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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NiamhNyx gonna flame yo ass for that one.
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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: Icelander]
#8058453 - 02/22/08 09:21 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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You sure hope so, so you can do another spanking.
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DieCommie
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:When one chimp tribe attacks and slaughters another chimp tribe, some call that natural.
When one human tribe attacks and slaughters another human tribe, some call that immoral and unnatural.
The difference between natural and unnatural exists only in our minds.
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MushmanTheManic
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: People make many false distinction like 'drugs and alcohol'.
When one chimp tribe attacks and slaughters another chimp tribe, some call that natural.
When one human tribe attacks and slaughters another human tribe, some call that immoral and unnatural.
Natural does not imply moral.
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Re: Survival of the Fittest vs. Genocide [Re: DieCommie]
#8058944 - 02/23/08 12:28 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Of course, but some like to pretend we are not animals and that something called 'morals' exists independent of culture.
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