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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8049803 - 02/20/08 10:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can make children under age 8 really believe that I disappeared a quarter. :yesnod:


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8049843 - 02/20/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't believe it.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: Notendo]
    #8050536 - 02/21/08 05:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't see any lightning bolts, flying or telekinesis in the video. Being able to produce electricity through body parts doesn't seem too far-fetched. An electric eel can apparently produce 500 V at 1 amp through what sounds to me like a similar mechanism to the initial stages of muscle contraction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_contraction#Skeletal_muscle_contractions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_eel#Physiology

I've no idea how he set the paper on fire though, i'm gonna go stick some paper in a plug socket, see if it catches fire :laugh:


Edited by jizmaster (02/21/08 05:33 AM)


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8051021 - 02/21/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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SyntheticMInd said:
It is real.  One time I was vibrating intensely on a high dose of acid and holding onto my self-healed quartz, I would touch my cat and it would pick up my vibrations.  It is as though it was being electricuted, I would hold on to it and its whole body would jolt and lock up as if it had been shocked by lightening.  And this wasn't just a hallucination, there were outside observers who weren't drug induced.  It was a baby kitten, and obviously very sensitive and receptive to the human electromagnetic field.



:rofl2:  haha.  So you were all fucked up on lsd, and were grabbing your cat.  You cant figure out what was going on?  Grab your cat right now, and squeeze him kind of hard.  I guarantee he will 'jolt' as he tries to escape from your totally insane presence.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8051112 - 02/21/08 09:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Of course not, but I know for a fact it's not going to happen in that kind of setting. Trying such a thing would likely result in a bad trip and lack of connection (being a key word). And that was a one time thing, which happened when I was doing major binging on psychedelics and deeply into the zone.

Sweet:monkeydance:

Some times specials at the Quikie Mart are one time only also. It just can't be helped.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: TheCow]
    #8051126 - 02/21/08 09:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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TheCow said:totally insane presence.




thank you :mypleasure:

ever seen the video of the cat on lsd?  it was almost identical to that.



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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8051144 - 02/21/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Somehow many inexperienced psychonauts believe that drugs like LSD give them some kind of access to powers they are not able to access when sober. But there is really no solid evidence for this among the millions and millions of trips experienced. "Youthful Folly"


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: Icelander]
    #8051329 - 02/21/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I find nothing magical about the body's electrical current. It is surely a possibility that the electricity that circulates through the body can be intensified and transmitted through various methods. Like when I shock you... nothing too magical about that.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8051548 - 02/21/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Like when I shock you... nothing too magical about that.




That's just static. It sounds possible that certain patterns of nerve impulses sent to muscles could generate electrical current similar to how an electric eel does it, that certainly seemed to be what the guy was doing.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_organ_discharge

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Postsynaptically, electrocytes work much like muscle cells.




Would be nice to get a biologists opinion, anyone know one?

Just found this, check out the video:http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/how-to-shoot-chi-bolts/

Looks pretty similar to the vid in this thread. The question is how to charge your body without using a high voltage tv transformer!


Edited by jizmaster (02/21/08 12:13 PM)


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: jizmaster]
    #8052113 - 02/21/08 02:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That guy made fire come out of his finger :yesnod:


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8054036 - 02/21/08 09:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I find nothing magical about the body's electrical current. It is surely a possibility that the electricity that circulates through the body can be intensified and transmitted through various methods. Like when I shock you... nothing too magical about that.




My question is how come it only happens when on LSD and such? No one here claims (honestly) to be able to do this stuff in normal awareness. Could it just be that when people trip they really don't have a clue what's going on and because it's so different from normal experience they have to make it into something profoundly mystical?


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: Icelander]
    #8054129 - 02/21/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I try not to think about it too much.  I just stated what happened to me, what I saw and what was confirmed through sober outside observers.  If these observers never saw what I did there would be no talk of it here.

It's ok, I was expecting nobody to believe me :thumbup:

Deny all you want, it doesn't change what happened.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8054170 - 02/21/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not denying anything but don't you think it's just a little ridiculous to mention something so subjective here and then feel miffed when some of us doubt it? Especially since we hear this same type of stuff from some really crack-pot posters around here. I mean really this is a forum centered around debate of ideas. These ideas are much easier to debate when there is some evidence that is more than personal hear say. You did say this It is real.. If I made such a statement I would expect it to be challenged and I would have some solid evidence to back such a bold claim.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: Icelander]
    #8054194 - 02/21/08 09:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I was expecting these kind of responses when I posted, no worries. And it has to do with the topic of the OP's post.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: deranger]
    #8054200 - 02/21/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: chodamunky]
    #8059971 - 02/23/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I riddle why most masters of such cults want it to be kept private, yes even secret.
My only conclusion is that it is easier to do harm with this knowledge than to do good.
And evil intentions hinder one to develop those abilities by and in oneself.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #8059990 - 02/23/08 11:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I riddle why most masters of such cults want it to be kept private, yes even secret.



Which is why they promote themselves via video and websites and books.

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y only conclusion is that it is easier to do harm with this knowledge than to do good.



Really? The only logical clonclusion is that this is all bullshit until such time as these masters do it under real scrutiny and not before a camera or a group of wild-eyed believrs.

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And evil intentions hinder one to develop those abilities by and in oneself.



Before we can figure out what hinders such abilities, the abilities must first be demonstrated. :rolleyes:


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8060838 - 02/23/08 02:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You haven't taken a look at that :wink:
edit:you think it's fake ? You think it doesn't matter what you think as long as it isn't proven ?


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8060845 - 02/23/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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And evil intentions hinder one to develop those abilities by and in oneself.





You think? Given some 'superpower' would you use it for evil? If so i'm sure you would use what power you already have for evil.

The guy does seem to be generating electricity, take a look at the link i posted:

http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/how-to-shoot-chi-bolts/

It looks pretty similar to me, and also sounds possible given that electric eels can apparently generate shocks of 500W using cells that are modified muscle cells. Hopefully someone who knows more about biology than me can comment on how this might be possible.

Of course stay skeptical unless it can be proven but this sounds a lot less far fetched than others i've seen.


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Re: Swami, take a look at this... [Re: jizmaster]
    #8060863 - 02/23/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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It looks pretty similar to me, and also sounds possible given that electric eels can apparently generate shocks of 500W




Because another animal can do it? Can a human fly without apparatus? Run 50 mph? Glow in the dark?

If the guy do a major electrical discharge, and not mere static, Randi would award him the million dollars.


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