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OfflineKombat Frank
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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8047065 - 02/20/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

personally, id like to think things like LSD, Mesc., etc. reveal more about ourselves, and our own minds

as iv stated before, i do not tie religion with psychedelics


but there is still the thought in my brain that psychedelics are simply just a drug, altering our mind, and nothing more

have fun with it


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: Kombat Frank]
    #8047132 - 02/20/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

As one who delved deep into meditation and psychedelics, I could never understand how the two were commingled except that popularity in the west arose around the same time through the influence of The Beatles, Donovan, Leary, Alpert, etc.

The states arrived at bear zero similarity to this poster.


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8047175 - 02/20/08 12:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

'...I could never undertsand how the two were commingled except that...'

Perhaps there is an experience, a chemical brain thingy, that has much explaining to do??


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8047771 - 02/20/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It is true that the strength of the connection between Eastern spiritual traditions and psychedelics has been exaggerated by their coincidental rise in popularity in the West.

However, meditation and psychedelics can both be used as intellectual tools, and thus many who are interested in one find themselves drawn to the other. You yourself said you have delved both into psychedelics and meditation.


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8047889 - 02/20/08 03:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
As one who delved deep into meditation and psychedelics, I could never understand how the two were commingled except that popularity in the west arose around the same time through the influence of The Beatles, Donovan, Leary, Alpert, etc.

The states arrived at bear zero similarity to this poster.




They are similar in a way that they can make one more self-aware and distached from identification. Sometimes deep meditation feels like the comedown of a mushroom trip, a feeling of deep connection with myself and the earth.


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8062297 - 02/23/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think some folks are able to "tap" into the spirit world and some just never will. On that note...I don't expect anyone else to believe what I do regarding God and the use of medicines (mushroom, mescaline, etc)...as I believe what I believe due to my personal experience and I can only hope other folks might have some personal experience of their own 
that leads to their own personal divine truth or whatever.  A principality to seeking divine is you have to believe in it a little bit...I think the common word is "faith"...you just need a little...so that leaves the subject open to fire  to say whatever divine is simply a resurrected imprint from ideas already in your mind...an elaborate illusion.

I think the important thing is that we don't discount our own experiences when the majority of the population disagrees with the concept....GO WITH GOD-
God knows the human kind is fucked.  :smile:


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #8062311 - 02/23/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

'God knows the human kind is fucked.'

This would explain it then. Thank you.
God is angry about this??


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8062337 - 02/23/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i dont think there is a spirit world, just our imaginations. our imagination is so much more fascinating and dynamic than a world

because unlike a world it doesn't have boundaries


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #8062594 - 02/23/08 10:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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EternalCowabunga said:
i dont think there is a spirit world, just our imaginations. our imagination is so much more fascinating and dynamic than a world

because unlike a world it doesn't have boundaries




I'm becoming more and more convinced that what we call "the spirit world" is synonymous with "imagination."


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: NlightNd1]
    #8062640 - 02/23/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I dont know if i would call it god. But infinity is possibly impossible for the human mind to completely grasp, and if you did completely understand it, you would become it, and cease to be human as you currently understand human to be.


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Re: Understanding the Psychedelic Infinity [Re: DimensionX]
    #8063011 - 02/24/08 01:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think the "Psychedelic Infinity" can be understood by mankind. We can view and experience it (through psychedelics) but nobody, imho, can fully understand it.

I like what DimensionX had to say about it too...


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