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hello again
    #8043931 - 02/19/08 06:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

welll after recovering from my 1/2 0z of weed eaten ... i guess i still havnt recovered... (heres the link:http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8006230/an/0/page/0) i have bought a complete ounce...
and was thinking of trying this

Alcohol Preparation
By Evil Sam

One 750ml bottle of grain alcohol (vodka works too but the higher the proof the better the absorption) take anywhere from 7-28 grams of MJ and chop it up real good, stems and all. In my opinion using lower grade MJ is better for consumption than for smoking. This is why I use 28 grams in my version. Its also more cost effective. Once all the MJ has been chopped (I use my coffee grinder) drink or pour off a couple shots (so as not to overflow) of the grain and funnel the MJ into the bottle.

This next step is the most difficult. Go to your calender and mark off a minimum of 3 weeks from the day you poured the MJ into the bottle and then place the bottle in a closet and forget about it. When the time has come you can strain the MJ out or leave it in, it is all preference. By this point your grain should be a dark green color almost blackish. Start with a 1/4 or 1/2 shot (depending on amount used initially) and mix it with some juice or whatever your favorite beverage is. Effects can be felt as soon as 5-10 minutes.

Be careful with this recipe! Always start low (as with all drugs).

Alcohol Preparation Notes:

1. the original recipe consisted of only stems and shake that I had collected from my dorm hall and it was just as strong.
2. Effects of cannabis come on more rapidly in liquid/alcohol preparations than with food-based oral cannabis preparations.





any ideas, experiences with this you could impart...



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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8043994 - 02/19/08 06:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

green dragon owns, duhhhhhhhhh


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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8044018 - 02/19/08 06:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sounds pretty nasty. Better for your lungs though :thumbup:.

Costa Rica huh? I envy you...

That sounds pretty worth-while though if it doesn't taste too bad. Maybe you could even add some spices and things to make it taste better like they do with various drinks.


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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8044142 - 02/19/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Master Wu's Green Dragon Tek

Master Wu knows what to do. The bud-toasting step is critical to getting the most punch into your product.

Also (as I recall) it doesn't need to sit for weeks and weeks if you heat the alcohol so it can extract the goodies quicker.


Edited by Entropymancer (02/19/08 07:13 PM)


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Re: hello again [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8044195 - 02/19/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how long do i "bud toast" it
and how.. so as not to waste an ounce


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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8044250 - 02/19/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry, I screwed up that link. Should be working now. But in case it's not, here's the relevent steps:




Process details—references and rationalizations:
1. Chop the cannabis
More surface area gives means a faster and more efficient extraction.

2. Bake the cannabis.
This converts THCA to THC via a decarboxylation reaction.

In whole-plant cannabis, THC content is expressed as THCA (tetrahydrocannabolic acid) prior to decarboxylation into THC, which takes place when cannabis is heated during cooking, and smoked or vaporized ingestion. THCA is a mild analgesic and anti-inflammatory but does not have good affinity with our CB1 receptors, so in order to make a THC-rich tincture that has many of the same therapeutic effects as smoked ingestion (including rapid absorption, quick relief and ease of self-titration), we must convert the THCA in the plant matter into THC prior to extracting it through an alcohol soak. (from Vancouver Island Compassion Society http://thevics.com/cannamist.htm)

THC vaporizes at about 380°F. We want to heat the cannabis to convert THCA to THC, but keep the temperature under 380°F. That is why 325°F is used. Between four and five minutes your oven (and house) will start to smell very strong. This is the time to remove the cannabis from the oven.

Notice also that there is considerable misinformation regarding heating the cannabis. It is true that you don't have to heat it to extract both THC and THCA, but the amount of THC in whole plant preparations is relatively small compared to after decarboxylation of the THCA. So if you want to maximize the strength of your tincture you must heat the cannabis prior to extraction.

3. Use the highest proof alcohol available.
Where I live this is Bacardi 151. The more alcohol the more efficient the extraction will be.

4. Simmer the mixture.

This is one of the areas that seems to be most debated. Many recipes call for placing the cannabis (unbaked of course) into the alcohol and waiting 2 – 6 weeks. The main concern with heating the alcohol is that it is “explosive” (not exactly true...it is however flammable).

The purpose of the simmering is to heat the alcohol mixture to improve extraction rates and efficiencies. Heating during extraction increases the motion of the molecules (basic physics/chemistry) and drastically decreases extraction times. The boiling point of pure ethanol is 173°F (78°C). We will use the water bath to heat the rum/cannabis mixture to just below the boiling point of ethanol.

Heating the alcohol mixture can be done very safely using a hot water bath. You will need an accurate candy or quick read thermometer. Place about 1 inch of water in a wide, vertical-edged pan (9” diameter x 3” high). Bring the water to a low simmer. The rum/cannabis mixture should be in a small (1 pint) mason jar. Do NOT cover the jar.

Put the thermometer into the mason jar and place into the simmering water bath. Bring the temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture to about 170°F. The alcohol should be just barely boiling.

You should have the oven fan on high. You will notice that any alcohol fumes are mixed with water vapor from the water bath and vented out the fan. This combined with the fact that you are trying not to boil the ethanol makes the process quite safe.


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Re: hello again [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8044261 - 02/19/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Short answer, toast for 5 minutes in an oven at 325 (might be best to only put it at 300 unless you have an oven thermometer... just in case your oven heats up higher than the temperature you set it too.


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Re: hello again [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8044317 - 02/19/08 07:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

thankls alot... you kick ass ^^^^^

best answer ever recieved.

no how bad will it stinkl up my house..


sorry for the t yoping


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Re: hello again [Re: Drewwyann]
    #8045480 - 02/19/08 11:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

oh they've got good bud in costa rica...i visited once and had a blast  :jointsmile:


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Re: hello again [Re: itsthedank]
    #8046234 - 02/20/08 06:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

they rarely do..and xpensive.. compared to the bay area it's hell... but now im growing a plant myself, along with my awaited mushies


how bad will it stink up my house??


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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8046255 - 02/20/08 07:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

when you cook it? not that bad just run your oven fan and its almost unnoticable


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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8048453 - 02/20/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

must've just been where i was at...but it was a bit more expensive than what i'm used to


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Re: hello again [Re: itsthedank]
    #8048539 - 02/20/08 06:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what you used to?.


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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8049125 - 02/20/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i'm used to $60/8th for some really good bud...where i was at, the dude cut me a deal for $75


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Re: hello again [Re: itsthedank]
    #8049129 - 02/20/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

75 an eigth? thats bullshit.


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Re: hello again [Re: doitagain]
    #8049159 - 02/20/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yea it kinda is...but it was gooood smoke


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Re: hello again [Re: itsthedank]
    #8049175 - 02/20/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol, well i usually get an eigth of the dankest of the danks for 45-55 but i guess if i really wanted to blaze and it was the only hook i could get i'd pay 75 as long as it was bomb.


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Re: hello again [Re: doitagain]
    #8049309 - 02/20/08 09:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i pay 60 out here for an eight.for some dank bud. but back when i lived in the bay area i could get an eight of granddaddy purp for 50


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Re: hello again [Re: leafing]
    #8049566 - 02/20/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

theres some romulan at the one of the clinics around me thats 45 an eighth.


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Re: hello again [Re: doitagain]
    #8049568 - 02/20/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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