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Cactus Query
    #8043744 - 02/19/08 05:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The way i understand it, the two common types of mescaline containing plant are Lophophora williamsii - Peyote and Trichocereus pachanoi - San Pedro.
Obtaining the succulent will not be a problem, however: which plant would one suggest for a first time user?
understandably, upon obtaining the cacti, it may not be the correct weight, but i've found a SP seller where they come as 20cm plants.
aside from a stalwart ornamental, how fast do these things grow?

and if growing from seed, any ideas how long either plant would take to mature to harvesting size?


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Re: Cactus Query [Re: Kanker]
    #8044903 - 02/19/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if you grow from seed you are looking at roughly 4-6 years before it has matured. If its Peyote it will take even longer, between 10-15 years.


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Re: Cactus Query [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8045026 - 02/19/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, i had a guess around 3-5 for pedro.
i'm happy with that, the seed growth was just more of a hobby interest, however obtaining a 20cm cutting as well should significantly decrease that growth time (or is 20cm pretty close already?)

edit:
supposedly grafting peyote to pedro cuts the growth time in half, but does this negatively effect the alkaloids at all/complicate preparation?


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Re: Cactus Query [Re: Kanker]
    #8045058 - 02/19/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Kanker said:
yeah, i had a guess around 3-5 for pedro.
i'm happy with that, the seed growth was just more of a hobby interest, however obtaining a 20cm cutting as well should significantly decrease that growth time (or is 20cm pretty close already?)

edit:
supposedly grafting peyote to pedro cuts the growth time in half, but does this negatively effect the alkaloids at all/complicate preparation?




20cm is just under 7 inches. I think that is perfect for 1 dose. Its not that big for a growing but it will grow fine, just take longer. and you will probably have to root it (unless you are getting them in pots)

I dont know about grafting, Im new to cactus cultivation myself. Just passing along some tips ive learned here.

I rooted my 10 inch pedro less than a week ago and im waiting for it to root.


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