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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #8047330 - 02/20/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol owned :thumbup:


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047335 - 02/20/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well im an atheist so i wont use that argument but they are naturally occurring plants.. and who is to "say for sure" that human society is right in what it and obviously you believe and follow??


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047338 - 02/20/08 01:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

who the fuck else created mushrooms? if they were not there meant to be consumed they would not be there.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: ashfiken]
    #8047356 - 02/20/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

its not my fault you submit to retard counterculture ideas the same as any other person submits to pop culture ideas... you are no different than some pro-life anti stem-cell evangelical christian who goes to local schools and posts up pictures of dead babies... basehead.

any logical person will not say "LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS, THE GOVERNMENT IS AGAINST EXPLORATION OF THE MIND BLA BLA BLA ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS ARE BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT"

if you took a vote from of all the humans in the USA i am sure that more than 75% (that is really being generous) would vote to keep LSD, shrooms, whatever illegal... that is what the government does - represents the people... and then you will come back with some bullshit like the Govt is using their propaganda machine to brainwash all the people JUST BECAUSE the majority of people do not agree with your opinion...


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047368 - 02/20/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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and then you will come back with some bullshit like the Govt is using their propaganda machine to brainwash all the people JUST BECAUSE the majority of people do not agree with your opinion...





Most people are not given the opportunity to agree with the opinions of psychedelic users.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: ashfiken]
    #8047377 - 02/20/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

dude you can say that about anything... what matters is what the majority of humans believe - if you come up with some ground breaking (truly ground breaking) reasoning and can find proof for human society being completely wrong besides your own personal experience with mushrooms (which is not universal) then i will listen to it. you could tell me that my skin is white and i could respond with "well according to you my skin is white but in actuality my skin is not white because we are all living in a dream world and in the true reality of my skin is that it is orange"

i am not against drugs... i am just saying that the government, the law, etc are not wrong just because you had a good experience on LSD, Shrooms, whatever...


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047397 - 02/20/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, and what percentage of humans have actually experienced psychedelics?

the fact is that the majority of humans don't even know the effects of psychedelics to make an informed opinion. like the proverbial sheep in a herd they fallow blindly.

and actually if you read anything about spiritual religions you will find a correlation between psychedelic states and spiritual enlightenment.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047405 - 02/20/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

history has shown over and over again on this earth that the majority is as a whole just as foolish as any other radical group that chooses to disassociate itself with the majority. NO ONE EVER SAID LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS secondly. while the government does have to do with majority decision i dont even believe it plays more of a role than simply the majorities' ignorance. im not speaking of my experiences nor dream worlds either only the broad plane of view you have chosen to form your argument with. and the fact that majority doesnt mean faultless


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #8047410 - 02/20/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lmao... yes just because something grows (and doesnt happen to kill you - even though it is toxic) means that it is meant to be there and to be consumed... stunning... simply stunning...


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047412 - 02/20/08 01:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

psilocybin is not toxic you ignorant fuck. learn to do some research before debating.

edit: ps. tobacco and alcohol are the toxins your talking about, why don't you preach about the illegalization of those substances?


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047429 - 02/20/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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if you took a vote from of all the humans in the USA i am sure that more than 75% (that is really being generous) would vote to keep LSD, shrooms, whatever illegal... that is what the government does - represents the people... and then you will come back with some bullshit like the Govt is using their propaganda machine to brainwash all the people JUST BECAUSE the majority of people do not agree with your opinion...




Well... yeah... and that same public probably shouldnt be regarded with too much esteem. Obviously the aims of modern society dont really mesh with the values of intoxication and altered consciousness. However, I do believe I am entitled to put whatever I want into my body. I think the government steps over lines when they set such rules. However that results with a grey area. I like less government though. I just wish that if anyone that was using drugs responsibly and got caught would not be prosecuted much at all. Thats where the true bullshit lies. I wish that we could agree with that. In the end, the point of the game is to not get caught, I feel as though currently its not TOO hard to prevent getting caught, especially as a user.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #8047430 - 02/20/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yo krishna... seriously are you fucking retarded? mushrooms are toxic - just because one chemical within the mushrooms is not toxic does not mean that other things within the mushroom are not.

and when i make arguments about legalizing drugs, i say that alcohol and tobacco should be illegal if we are truly going to be strict about enforcing our laws to protect the people... but alcohol / tobacco are still incomparable to lsd/other hallucinogens despite the stats on fatalities involving them.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047441 - 02/20/08 01:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

dude, everythings toxic, the fucking oxygen you breathe is toxic. how toxic are mushrooms compared to pharmaceutical drugs?

ok after reading that last statement i'm done arguing with an ignorant fuck like you. enjoy your sobriety but don't force it on others.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: andrewss]
    #8047458 - 02/20/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

andrew i agree with you - but i mean as a single user if you get caught while being on drugs 99% of the time you will be outside your own home... public intoxication... same thing happens to drunks on a friday night in your home town. if you are trippin in your own house go for it... but when you act all bitter just because you got caught out in public... well... i dont accept that. you can't want these drugs to be legal just because you got caught. it is your fault for breaking societies laws. (not you personally)


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047460 - 02/20/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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if you took a vote from of all the humans in the USA i am sure that more than 75% (that is really being generous) would vote to keep LSD, shrooms, whatever illegal... that is what the government does - represents the people... and then you will come back with some bullshit like the Govt is using their propaganda machine to brainwash all the people JUST BECAUSE the majority of people do not agree with your opinion...




First of all, this is not really a case of majority rules, as it's an issue of individual rights.

Second of all, if you don't think the government is trying to heavily inffluence peoples opinions of drugs, you aren't seeing the whole picture.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #8047469 - 02/20/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i am glad you aren't going to respond because every post you have made shows the true ignorance that you bring to any argument or debate and honestly just brings down the thread. i think i might block you so i do not have to deal with reading your idiotic posts in the future.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047476 - 02/20/08 02:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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yo krishna... seriously are you fucking retarded? mushrooms are toxic - just because one chemical within the mushrooms is not toxic does not mean that other things within the mushroom are not.

and when i make arguments about legalizing drugs, i say that alcohol and tobacco should be illegal if we are truly going to be strict about enforcing our laws to protect the people... but alcohol / tobacco are still incomparable to lsd/other hallucinogens despite the stats on fatalities involving them.




i have read all your stuff and no one said legalize all drugs, i don't even want pot to be made legal, decriminalized > legality. if you buy drugs (which you said you do) you should be thrown in jail. just because you do your drugs in your house doesn't mean its not illegal. if you speed, j-walk, drive w/o a seat belt, spit on a sidewalk, etc etc does that mean you should go to jail?? well its my choice that i smoke grass and eat psychedelic drugs, why should i go to jail for that??

don't claim that we are closed minded "open minded" people. i know im open minded but i am set in what i believe. ive seen both sides and the one im on right now makes more sense than the other.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: CFCID]
    #8047478 - 02/20/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ok, enjoy. dumbass. i'm not the one advocating regulation of what people ingest, might as well monitor what people eat too.


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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #8047505 - 02/20/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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ok, enjoy. dumbass. i'm not the one advocating regulation of what people ingest, might as well monitor what people eat too.




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Re: Did someone large recently get busted in the LSD network? [Re: wildchild68]
    #8047525 - 02/20/08 02:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i understand the argument that some may for individual rights and i understand that the government does try to influence people... but drugs like lsd's legality are not just a matter of individual rights. the decriminalization/legality of these drugs would bring the whole society into the fray... must i go into why i think this is true or can you understand that for yourself?

mind you all of my posts have been directed toward divided_sky before the point where some other board members attacked my response to him.

krishna once again you bring your ignorance into this thread making false claims about what i am trying to say... why must there always be "that guy" on these kinds of forums. now you are blocked because not only do you attack this opposing view with horrid arguments, but you cant even read/comprehend what i say before you do so.


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