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    #8042924 - 02/19/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: jonogt]
    #8043013 - 02/19/08 02:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

could be the spores. or maybe you didn't pc them long enough. right now i'm doing 3 honey lc's. the first one i put way too much in, somewhere between 5-6%. I also only pc'd for 20 min. 2 others were 3% and 4% and pc'd for 45 min. polyfill lids and micropore covered injection holes for all jars. the last 2 are doing well, and the first one is not working out. its not 'cloudy' but it is no longer clear. the spores germinated at first but stopped growing after a couple days. I attribute it to too much honey and/or insufficient sterilization.

One more idea: are you using pure honey?


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: meatman]
    #8043046 - 02/19/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

jonogt. I assume that you have done enough reading to know that honey sucks for lc's???


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: tahoe]
    #8043056 - 02/19/08 02:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i dont understand. why are there people having success with it? how can that suck?


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: meatman]
    #8043150 - 02/19/08 02:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

success doesnt=great


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: jonogt]
    #8043181 - 02/19/08 02:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I had 0 growth with several different methods and types of honey. Ever since i moved to Monstermitch's Liquid culture recipe I haven't had anything but excellent growth. I use his lids too.

monstermitch's pictorials: Making Liquid Culture
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7492940/an/0/page/0

monstermitch's pictorials: Making Liquid Culture Lids
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7492975/an/0/page/0


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: KCizzle]
    #8043255 - 02/19/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's your spores then...where did you buy them? Incubation? You either put too much Nutrients or too little.


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing *DELETED* [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8043889 - 02/19/08 06:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: jonogt]
    #8043913 - 02/19/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Honey LC is great. I've never had a problem with it. Spores tend to take a while, so just chill back and wait a week or two, if it turns cloudy scrap it. With LC i get results overnight. Honey LC is very fool proof as well. I have never measured honey at all. I've used VERY little, to the point were it's not even close to looking yellow and it worked just fine. I've PC'd honey LC with my WBS jars for 60 minutes and never had it caramelize. It's all about doing things properly and not half-assing things.


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing *DELETED* [Re: bryanbzl]
    #8043969 - 02/19/08 06:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: jonogt]
    #8044049 - 02/19/08 06:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldnt worry about finding those specialized inoculation ports in the pictorial. I just used the usual 100% Silicon caulk over 1/2" drilled hole. I couldnt find them myself. The syringe filters i found on eBay and numerous other sites.


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: jonogt]
    #8044087 - 02/19/08 06:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

whats your measurements for the lc? how many grams honey? how many water? i assume you know it should be done by weight. i also think that it should be pc'd for at least 45 min. In my limited experience that works best.


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Re: honey LCs just flat out not growing [Re: KCizzle]
    #8044090 - 02/19/08 06:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

All of those supplies for MM's LC are uber cheap. The caro, tamarind sugar (raw cane sugar), and dextrose (corn sugar) can all be found at Whole Foods, Trader joes for under $10. For the dry light malt. You can get enough to last you till the end of time for about $5 at any Beer brewer online supply store.


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