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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8044329 - 02/19/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the only reason it is available for download is because several individuals put years of their life into working on it.

they deserve to be compensated for that time and effort if you think the program deserves your time and effort to put to use.

where the fuck do you think their money comes from?


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Re: free photoshop [Re: Boom]
    #8044330 - 02/19/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I got a pirated copy of Photoshop CS (the latest that I know of) from school last year. A teacher gave it to me. Slipped it "under the table" and told me not to even lend it to friends.

CS is just more confusing, I agree with above poster, I get everything I need out of photoshop 7, that was enough. CS is for people who msoke too much meth


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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8044338 - 02/19/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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nah, i think they have already made enough money. why continue to put millions of dollars to the movie industry, music industry, recording industry, actors, ect. Its better to put your hard earned money to better causes then paying for everything that can be downloaded for free.




ugh

Ok, so you don't like the product and wouldn't consider buying it. Why listen or watch it?


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Re: free photoshop [Re: debianlinux]
    #8044341 - 02/19/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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the only reason it is available for download is because several individuals put years of their life into working on it.

they deserve to be compensated for that time and effort if you think the program deserves your time and effort to put to use.

where the fuck do you think their money comes from?




yeah I guess if you think like a 12 year old you wouldn't understand this concept


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Re: free photoshop [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #8044356 - 02/19/08 07:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the government pays them :paranoid:


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Re: free photoshop [Re: debianlinux]
    #8044359 - 02/19/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah well its my money, so i have no reason to suck they're cocks and donate my money to something i can just download. If all the software engineers, actors, and musicians think that everyone should be altruistic and donate money to them and make them rich, well then if they believe in altruism they should work for free.


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Re: free photoshop [Re: indica]
    #8044366 - 02/19/08 07:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

There are lots of companies with govt contracts.  This doesn't mean that the developers deserve their programs to be raped and cracked :lol:


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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8044372 - 02/19/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Yeah well its my money, so i have no reason to suck they're cocks and donate my money to something i can just download. If all the software engineers, actors, and musicians think that everyone should be altruistic and donate money to them and make them rich, well then if they believe in altruism they should work for free.





They aren't asking for donations, they are asking you to pay for their product.


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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8044378 - 02/19/08 07:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

no one is telling you not to download torrents, how fucking dense are you?  :flowstone:  it's already a big deal with video games


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Re: free photoshop [Re: Boom]
    #8044393 - 02/19/08 07:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They are asking to pay for their products that are freely all over the net so therefore if you do pay for the product it is a true altruistic donation


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Re: free photoshop [Re: debianlinux]
    #8044402 - 02/19/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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debianlinux said:
Stizzle was right to suggest the gimp





I've been using gimp for a while now, photoshop prior to that and gimp may not
have all the bells and whistles of photoshop but it is better than 80%+ of the pay
software I've seen



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Re: free photoshop [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #8044408 - 02/19/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, i was just talking about all the billions of dollars that are going to multimedia that is free on the net. The money could be going into such better things then hard copies of disposable digital media


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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8044411 - 02/19/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So I can either grab a laptop that someone left on the table when they went to take a piss, which in the store is 1000, or go to the store and buy it. I'd be an idiot for paying, lol!


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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8044421 - 02/19/08 07:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Yeah, i was just talking about all the billions of dollars that are going to multimedia that is free on the net. The money could be going into such better things then hard copies of disposable digital media




You're right, the media itself is worthless.  Discs maybe cost a penny or two.  But.....eh, nevermind :lol:  You know exactly where I'm going with this, you seriously don't think this way, right?


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Re: free photoshop [Re: Boom]
    #8044429 - 02/19/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:cool: smart move, now your thinkin


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Re: free photoshop [Re: Boom]
    #8044435 - 02/19/08 07:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I honestly do think like this, i used to fill my gas tank for free all the time


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Re: free photoshop [Re: Boom]
    #8044466 - 02/19/08 07:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm very ethical in all this though. I wouldint just steal your lap-top but if the debate continued on and on and you kept spending all your paychecks on movies and software i would probably steal your laptop.


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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8045209 - 02/19/08 10:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well you aren't very logical, not everyone can get free stuff or nobody would create music or develop software


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Re: free photoshop [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #8045244 - 02/19/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think its very logical. I think everyone would still make great music and software if they really wanted to. Like I want to get a digital video camera and get some friends together and make some movies and put them up on a web-site. If the main objective for Microsoft is wealth and power and not for people to enjoy a great operating system then my motivation and everyone else motivation should be the same, and not to donate all their money to Microsoft's strive for power. I really don't see your logical point in just feeding everyone money that wants power and directing the economy in the wrong way.


Edited by SheerTerror (02/19/08 10:36 PM)


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Re: free photoshop [Re: SheerTerror]
    #8045331 - 02/19/08 10:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:lol:

Your videos wouldn't be as good as some of the movies out there...


I'm not a Microsoft fan, but, they make products that are run almost everywhere.  They employ a shitload of people that don't work for free.  Instead of giving them money for the sake of doing what's right (it's an added bonus, though) I('d) like to have a legit product that can receive updates and support.


the license for xp pro is just over a hundred, which really isn't bad.


Bottom line, though, is that I do download pirated shit.  And I feel bad when I talk about it at work (software company :lol: ) since people just like my coworkers (I'm an intern, so...I make significantly less - hence my justification for downloading) are getting stolen from.

:shrug:


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