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The low-down on club drugs
    #8041517 - 02/19/08 03:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://health.myfoxaustin.com/textitem.aspx?id=3785

Experimenting with drugs is nothing new. At certain times during the last century, recreational drug use took a very predominant role. Unfortunately, drug experimentation by adolescents is still prevalent, leading to serious consequences.

Although users may think these substances are harmless, research has shown that club drugs can produce a range of unwanted effects, including hallucinations, paranoia, amnesia, and, in some cases, death. When used with alcohol, these drugs can be even more harmful. Some club drugs work on the same brain mechanisms as alcohol and, therefore, can dangerously boost the effects of both substances. Also, there are great differences among individuals in how they react to these substances and no one can predict how he or she will react. Some people have been known to have extreme, even fatal, reactions the first time they use club drugs. And studies suggest club drugs found in party settings are often adulterated or impure and thus even more dangerous.

The ABC's of recreational drugs
"X," "XTC", "Adam," and "Ecstasy" are slang names for MDMA, which is a stimulant and a hallucinogen. Young people may use Ecstasy to improve their moods or get energy to keep dancing; however, chronic abuse of MDMA appears to damage the brain's ability to think and regulate emotion, memory, sleep, and pain.

"G," "Liquid Ecstasy," "Georgia Home Boy" or Gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB) may be made in homes by using recipes with common ingredients. At lower doses, GHB can relax the user, but, as the dose increases, the sedative effects may result in sleep and eventual coma or death.

"Roofie" or "Roche" (Rohypnol) is tasteless and odorless. It mixes easily in carbonated beverages. Rohypnol may cause individuals under the influence of the drug to forget what happened. Other effects include low blood pressure, drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, and stomach upset.

"Special K" or "K" (Ketamine) is an anesthetic. Use of a small amount of ketamine results in loss of attention span, learning ability, and memory. At higher doses, ketamine can cause delirium, amnesia, high blood pressure, depression, and severe breathing problems.

"Speed," "Ice," "Chalk," "Meth" (Methamphetamine) is often made in home laboratories. Methamphetamine use can cause serious health concerns, including memory loss, aggression, violence, psychotic behavior, and heart problems.

"Acid" or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD) may cause unpredictable behavior depending on the amount taken, where the drug is used, and on the user's personality. A user might feel the following effects: numbness, weakness, nausea, increased heart rate, sweating, lack of appetite, "flashbacks," and sleeplessness.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8041712 - 02/19/08 06:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I love how they concentrate on the negatives so much.

Propaganda FTW!


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8041781 - 02/19/08 07:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

> Unfortunately, drug experimentation by adolescents is still prevalent, leading to serious consequences.


Oh no, save teh children!


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Seuss]
    #8041806 - 02/19/08 07:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

why do they keep saying hallucinogens are a bad thing? if the kid doesnt want to hallucinate then he shouldnt be taking hallucinogens...


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: wortiesbo]
    #8041838 - 02/19/08 07:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, yes, children... Be good little drones and listen to the the almighty Fox network.

Well, at least now I know you can make GHB at home.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8041934 - 02/19/08 08:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

COME ON! Where is the research chemical coverage? That would have been the only useful info in there for parents + yuppies and the like.

How on Earth do they think they are doing ANYTHING but wasting time publishing an article about, Extacy, GHB, Roofies, Speical K, Speed and Acid????

Every highschool skank knows about most of those...

And everyone else knows from DARE class.

Adults? :lol:

I would have thought the 3 news reports a week exposing these drugs during the "rave era" would have paved the road.

At least enough so to not, in 2008, have some exposing article about the "low down" on these strange new drugs as if its the first time parents have heard about them...


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8042068 - 02/19/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I love how these anti-drug propaganda "articles" always read like they're some high school kid's essay for health class. Who the hell hires these hacks?


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8042191 - 02/19/08 10:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:

The ABC's of recreational drugs
"X," "XTC", "Adam," and "Ecstasy" are slang names for MDMA, which is a stimulant and a hallucinogen.




Who calls MDMA "Adam"? That is one of the stupidest nicknames for a drug I have ever heard.
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"G," "Liquid Ecstasy," "Georgia Home Boy" or Gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB) may be made in homes by using recipes with common ingredients. At lower doses, GHB can relax the user, but, as the dose increases, the sedative effects may result in sleep and eventual coma or death.




That sounds a lot like alcohol to me.
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"Roofie" or "Roche" (Rohypnol) is tasteless and odorless. It mixes easily in carbonated beverages. Rohypnol may cause individuals under the influence of the drug to forget what happened. Other effects include low blood pressure, drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, and stomach upset.




This is true, but it's not all that common. Alcohol is the most widely used date rape drug.
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"Acid" or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD) may cause unpredictable behavior depending on the amount taken, where the drug is used, and on the user's personality. A user might feel the following effects: numbness, weakness, nausea, increased heart rate, sweating, lack of appetite, "flashbacks," and sleeplessness.



Do people really take LSD to go clubbing? That is the last thing I would want to be doing on LSD. I didn't feel weak, nauseous, or sleepy on LSD, did you? Who has ever had a flashback that was actually dangerous? I bet it's far less than 1% of users. LSD is one of the least toxic chemicals known to man in normal active dosages.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: robbyberto]
    #8042565 - 02/19/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Fox, I'm glad you could take the time to comb through all of those high school health class essay entries and attempt to "educate" people on the harmful side of drugs. Seeing as these drugs are only 30 years old and most people have either used them, or know someone who uses/used them, this is undoubtedly one of the most useful pieces of work targeted at old people and sheltered children. I look forward to hearing about the positive and negative effects of blood-letting and how it relates to me in next week's special. I would also like to suggest you cover a segment on how "new latex condoms" are prone to breakage.

I guess Fox's writers are still having problems adjusting to all the stuff they missed.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8042572 - 02/19/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So who's got the soup can and bird shit tek for ghb?

You know a couple other dangerous club drugs?

"Beer", "Booze", "Shots" and "Wobbly-Pops"(also abbreviated as WP- also standing for WHITE POWER! Think of the children) are slang terms for one of the most addicted and widely used toxic drugs, Alcohol. It's so widely used 97% of the US population has at least tried it! Users can expect to feel the following: sleepiness, dis coordination, anger and sadness, nausea, ulcers, suicidal thoughts, amnesia, persisting learning difficulties, overdose, and death.

"Smokes", "Cig" "Drag", and "Cancer Stick" are terms for Tobacco! People often smoke one or more of these per hour, and it is not unusual for users to increase their TOLERANCE TO up to 60+ cigarettes a day! Users commonly experience side effects such as: Sore throat, addiction, heart issues, cancer, and death!"


I remember seeing one article in the local paper about how GBH was such a deadly drug, even it's nickname was Grievous Bodily Harm. Too bad its a UK punk band (one of my favorites at that) or a criminal law. Looks like someone was just googling the wrong term :P

And Ketamine impairs learning? I used to do bits of ketamine in German class, and I was one of the best in the class, I picked it up very quickly and thoroughly... And I remember most of my ketamine experiences inside and out, and I can never remember most of my various tryptamine trips... That's not everyone I guess.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: robbyberto]
    #8042793 - 02/19/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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robbyberto said:
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b0red5tiff said:

The ABC's of recreational drugs
"X," "XTC", "Adam," and "Ecstasy" are slang names for MDMA, which is a stimulant and a hallucinogen.




Who calls MDMA "Adam"? That is one of the stupidest nicknames for a drug I have ever heard.





Um, I think it was Alexander Shulgin (the man who synthesized it) or Leo Zeoff (the guy who spread it around to therapists). That was what it was originally called when people were using it for psychotherapy in the late 70s and early 80s before it got into the party scene. It was called Adam because MDMA is like reverting back to the perfect, innocent and primordial person, like a human before the "fall from eden" and it has most of the same letters as the chemical.

#2: GHB is very similar to alcohol both chemically and by its effects, so no suprise.

#3: Many people go to raves and trance parties on acid. They might not be bumpin and grinding to 50 Cent, but LSD is not uncommon at certain kinds of dance parties. With the right vibe and music it is hard not to have a good time, and I think a Burner Party or Psytrance-ish party is generally alot better with acid than MDMA.

Personally, although the article is slanted, I am suprised that they got most of there facts right and didn't print misinformation like small doses of e putting holes in your brain or LSD making people eat babies. They can't write anything positive, but at least they concede to not distorting the negative all that much.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #8043157 - 02/19/08 02:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Some people over aggrandize MDMA, including Shulgin and his wife, so I guess the nickname 'Adam' really isn't surprising. I just didn't think of that. Shulgin wasn't the first one to synthesize MDMA. He just popularized it and introduced it Leo Zeff, like you said.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: robbyberto]
    #8043252 - 02/19/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I once saw an article listing 5-Meo-Dmt as a dangerous club drug. Now I don't know about you, and I enjoy going out to clubs as much as the next guy, but I have never seen, let alone wanted to try taking any DMT at any kind of social setting like that.

I wonder how many baby boomers and successful, productive adults read the segment on LSD and chuckled at how much fun they've had with the stuff and how "detrimental" it really was to their health and development.

One day everyone will see these kinds of skewered reports as at best, silly and biased and at worst, decietful and immoral and maybe the world may change for the better, but until then, it's the duty of everyone who knows the facts to educate the ignorant.

What never ceases to amaze me is just how fervently certain people can be so against something without even beginning to try to understand it.


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8043290 - 02/19/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This article seems acurate :thumbup:

only qualm is the uncertain nature of sustained damage from MDMA... I don't think this has been demonstrated yet in people

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"G," "Liquid Ecstasy," "Georgia Home Boy"




umm... georgia home boy?  really?



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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: johnm214]
    #8043461 - 02/19/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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research has shown that club drugs can produce a range of unwanted effects, including hallucinations




inst that the EXACT point of taking some drugs?


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8045248 - 02/19/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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"Acid" or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD) may cause... lack of appetite...








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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: skateordont]
    #8045382 - 02/19/08 10:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i don't know about YOU all...but i take drugs cuz they make me feel like shit!  :rolleyes:


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Re: The low-down on club drugs [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #8046751 - 02/20/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What I don't get is if euphoria, increased energy, and hallucinations are "side effects" then what are the main or intended effects?

Are all the effects of illegal drugs "side effects"?


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