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LeftyBurnz
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legal question.
#8039946 - 02/18/08 08:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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this is just hypothetical, not anything i really need to know in the immediate future, and im not sure if this would be the best forum to get an answer, but ill throw it out anyway and if any of the mods think i can get a better answer somewhere else then by all means move the thread.... 
anyway, me and my boss were arguing about this and i would like to know which would be worse.
1. get caught with an ounce of pot, accept responsibility and deal with everything that comes along with possesion?
2. run like hell and successfully disperse all of the pot, before walking back to the scene to undoubtedly be arrested for fleeing and evading, possibly destruction of evidence(if they can prove i had anything on me before i ran?)?
and also i would like to know, what would the possession charge be upgraded to if you had a scale of any sort within the same vicinity of the pot?
thanx in advance.
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8039979 - 02/18/08 08:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think (if you can get away and dispose) that it would be better to do so then get caught with it. The thought "fucking prove it" comes to mind.
EDIT: Why would you walk back to the scene?
Im thinking which charge is worse here? It depends on where your at. Where I live id much rather be charged with evading then possession of an ounce.
Edited by Gratos (02/18/08 08:33 PM)
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Re: legal question. [Re: Gratos]
#8039988 - 02/18/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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depends on wut state u are in but most likely u wont be able to dispose of an ounce while runin away from the cops unless u were in a car and chucked it out ur window at the right time but an ounce here in cali=24 hours community service, i no this 4 a fact i did it myself
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8039991 - 02/18/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did not read ur post but I aSSUME i WILL SEE YOU IN jail
BTW when you assume you make an ass of you and me
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8039992 - 02/18/08 08:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Possession of an oz. can have a range of consequences, depending on the state in which you were caught in. If i remember correctly, Alaska's marijuana laws are so lenient that an oz. is usually dismissed or deemed a misdemeanor.
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8039995 - 02/18/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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cops don't like it when you run, they WILL beat your ass when they catch you, and if they can PROVE that you destroyed evidence you are screwed...
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Re: legal question. [Re: Fungi_x]
#8039998 - 02/18/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fungi_x said:
BTW when you assume you make an ass of you and me
No, you are the only ass in this case. And all others.
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8040005 - 02/18/08 08:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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In some states an ounce is a felony. If the cannabis charge would be a felony I might bolt. I don't know if any charges you would get for successfully evading the police and destroying the cannabis before being caught are felonies, but if they were I wouldn't try it.
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: legal question. [Re: Gratos]
#8040017 - 02/18/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Gratos said: I think (if you can get away and dispose) that it would be better to do so then get caught with it. The thought "fucking prove it" comes to mind.
EDIT: Why would you walk back to the scene?
Im thinking which charge is worse here? It depends on where your at. Where I live id much rather be charged with evading then possession of an ounce.
oh, i forgot to add that hypothetically they knew who you were and would find you whether you came back or not. lol
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Re: legal question. [Re: Coaster]
#8040027 - 02/18/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said: depends on wut state u are in but most likely u wont be able to dispose of an ounce while runin away from the cops unless u were in a car and chucked it out ur window at the right time but an ounce here in cali=24 hours community service, i no this 4 a fact i did it myself
florida. i did 9 months probation and fines when i was 17 for getting caught with 1 pipe and less than a gram of pot.
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8040030 - 02/18/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Play it safe and keep it just under an ounce. If you get caught, agree to share it with them.
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: legal question. [Re: Fungi_x]
#8040031 - 02/18/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fungi_x said: I did not read ur post but I aSSUME i WILL SEE YOU IN jail
BTW when you assume you make an ass of you and me
lmao. no. its hypothetical fungi!
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Re: legal question. [Re: mycosis]
#8040039 - 02/18/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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mycosis said: cops don't like it when you run, they WILL beat your ass when they catch you, and if they can PROVE that you destroyed evidence you are screwed...
i know this, which is why hypothetically i would return and immediately lay on the ground with my hands on my head. might not stop a beating.... who knows lol
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8040041 - 02/18/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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FACT: Florida is a piece of shit state.
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: legal question. [Re: robbyberto]
#8040051 - 02/18/08 08:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: In some states an ounce is a felony. If the cannabis charge would be a felony I might bolt. I don't know if any charges you would get for successfully evading the police and destroying the cannabis before being caught are felonies, but if they were I wouldn't try it.
what is fleeing and evading? misdemeanor?
and im just assuming that the person bolting is in an area that he knows well and this person is very physically fit and has a good chance of outrunning and dispersing.
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Quote:
andyistic said: Play it safe and keep it just under an ounce. If you get caught, agree to share it with them.
bribery wouldnt be a good charge to add :P
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LeftyBurnz
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Quote:
meatcakeman said: FACT: Florida is a piece of shit state.
this is correct.
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8040070 - 02/18/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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IF you could run far and fast enough to dispose of the *evidence*, why would you go back, why not just keep running? A scale, depending on the cop and his/her attitude at the moment, could bring on an intent charge, which isn't good. All in all, the best move is to always not get caught.
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LeftyBurnz
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Quote:
DoltishVirtuoso said: IF you could run far and fast enough to dispose of the *evidence*, why would you go back, why not just keep running? A scale, depending on the cop and his/her attitude at the moment, could bring on an intent charge, which isn't good. All in all, the best move is to always not get caught.
well of course. anyone would avoid getting caught if possible.
this whole question came about because of a news story we heard on the radio, and i said something about that if i were in the persons shoes that i would have hauled ass and at least attempted to dispose of the pot before the cops saw what i had. instead of doing like the person in the news segment and just admitting to having pot on them before the cop even searched them.
my boss seemed to think that running would bring me more problems than just accepting the possession charges, but i disagree. i was just wondering the opinion of my fellow shroomerites. 
(and to answer the question of why go back, because this is assuming that they already have your identity due to license plate/car, or whatever. obviously if i was on foot and they had no idea who i was, i would not go back. this is only if they already knew my identity.)
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8040227 - 02/18/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you get caught with over an ounce in FL you're fucked. I think they give distribution charges for just that (not just possession like you're saying), having a scale with you is a cherry on top of the whipped cream.
And the running thing and "dispersing of the pot", well....its just not going to happen and you know it 
"hypothetically"
Edited by Ombient (02/18/08 09:31 PM)
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: legal question. [Re: Robo]
#8040269 - 02/18/08 09:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well what a way to dash my hopes omni lol
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Re: legal question. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8040496 - 02/18/08 10:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You should know by now, that is Omni's specialty!
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let's break it down.
1.) you run - evading 2.) you don't run - distribution 3.) you run and don't get rid of the pot - distribution, evading, tampering with evidence or destroying evidence 4.) you run get rid of the evidence and the cops don't plant evidence on you - you get evading and maybe assaulting an officer if you don't come back 100% willingly 5.) you run and they catch you - evading, distribution and they beat your ass and maybe say they "found" a gun on you too, your really fucked then :o
Don't run unless you think you'll get rid of the pot.
If you decide not to run cooperate 100% and plead guilty you could get a lesser sentence. Where I live a friend who sold crack and made anywhere from 3000-5000$ a night got 2 years and served one actual year because he plead guilty. He was looking at up to eight.
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