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OfflineSeraph in Blue
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: Feanor]
    #8046086 - 02/20/08 03:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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PsilocybinMike said:
Anyone here think weed, especially good weed, brings out the visual aspects of LSD? It has from my experience anyway..




To be honest, I get some of my most intense visuals from marijuana. I tend to get stronger visuals from weed than from mushrooms or LSD. Marijuana is just very visual for me.




I have never ever ever had any visuals on marijuana, and I've smoked supposedly some of the best. I've been stoned off my ass, too stoned, but never once a single visual....

Oh wait...there was that one time where I smoked a "mummy" (joint dipped in PCP) and got some out there visuals, but that's a horse of a different color.

I tend to be by far the most visual tripper of anyone I know personally, and I don't know many people who get visuals from marijuana, so this is quite hard to believe for me.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: donvliet]
    #8046089 - 02/20/08 03:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well, i havent had much use of RCs tho im certain some of my "acid" has been for sure a type of DO(x) i certainly didnt buy any of that batch but it sure as hell was way to pricy to be real lsd. i have to still stand by each to their own cause i know alot of people that would prefer DOx or other RCs rather then LSD. I still gota say as well each can be used as a healing tool but what cant be used as a healing tool in some way.


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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8046090 - 02/20/08 03:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To the OP, one thing that works very well for me to potentiate visuals with the more classic psychedelics is dropping some MDMA in the mix, this ahs always given me a SHIT-TON of visuals more than I would be seeing had it just been acid or just mushrooms or just RC's. It also tends to give me much less of a headfuck and I can enjoy the onslaught of visuals without worrying about getting stuck or falling into a bad trip.

The visuals from candy-flipping in particular seem to be insane, and it usually takes less acid to get a much more visual effect for me than if I had taken it alone. The visuals also seem to be markedly different. More neon and carnival like, and they come much faster and more frequently.

If you have not tried it, I suggest you give it a shot.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8046113 - 02/20/08 04:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i would think the whole point of a Phen amphetamine that makes you trip, would be to make candy flipping unnecessary but maybe thats just me trying to put a reason to why that chemical exists and had to be unlocked, many years later then all the ones found in nature, kinda relating to my post not to long ago about the brain,chemicals,and social interaction and it all being relative to everything having meaning. that everything has meaning or nothing does and i would like to know where the fuck your standing if nothing has meaning. but anywho...

yeah


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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8046157 - 02/20/08 05:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Seraph in Blue said:
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Feanor said:
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PsilocybinMike said:
Anyone here think weed, especially good weed, brings out the visual aspects of LSD? It has from my experience anyway..




To be honest, I get some of my most intense visuals from marijuana. I tend to get stronger visuals from weed than from mushrooms or LSD. Marijuana is just very visual for me.




I have never ever ever had any visuals on marijuana, and I've smoked supposedly some of the best. I've been stoned off my ass, too stoned, but never once a single visual....

Oh wait...there was that one time where I smoked a "mummy" (joint dipped in PCP) and got some out there visuals, but that's a horse of a different color.

I tend to be by far the most visual tripper of anyone I know personally, and I don't know many people who get visuals from marijuana, so this is quite hard to believe for me.




I have to say I've certainly get visual distortions when I smoke weed, but only when I smoke several joints, blunts or bowls over an entire day. By the end of the day, when I'm smoking that last doobie, it's dark and shit will start moving.

I always smoke weed after I've come up on any psychedelic. In my experience, weed mixes with anything. Except large amounts of alcohol. And some other things.. but as far as psychedelics, it's all good.


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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: thedudenj]
    #8046171 - 02/20/08 05:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
i would think the whole point of a Phen amphetamine that makes you trip, would be to make candy flipping unnecessary but maybe thats just me trying to put a reason to why that chemical exists and had to be unlocked, many years later then all the ones found in nature, kinda relating to my post not to long ago about the brain,chemicals,and social interaction and it all being relative to everything having meaning. that everything has meaning or nothing does and i would like to know where the fuck your standing if nothing has meaning. but anywho...

yeah




I don't know if there really is a point when Shulgin and others create these chemicals. They just take known phen and tryptamine psychedelics and alter their chemical formula to see what they will get. I don't think they are purposefully trying to create something to replace a candytrip or any objective like that. It's simply finding out what will happen when you create an analogue.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: donvliet]
    #8046236 - 02/20/08 06:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ha ha who said shulgin did? im saying maybe true nature did and thats why its not found in the nature as in plants, and is found in the nature of wandering human minds or something of the such ^.^ cause the wandering human mind i think loves candy flipping. and well for some reason its part of life and for some damn reason thus too part of nature just some keys need to be found then things unlocked as in or other words "and others create these chemicals. They just take known phen and tryptamine psychedelics and alter their chemical formula to see what they will get" but they deffinatly were looking for psychoactive ones or really hated their job. cause i think they loved their job and being the first people to synth and do these things to later spread to all the other wandering minds. or something of that such if you get what i mean. if any thing there is human nature


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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: donvliet]
    #8046333 - 02/20/08 08:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I can't see how anyone could think LSD isn't very visual. I mean, I know it effects everyone differently, but last time I tripped I had giant rainbows covered in holy symbols bursting out of the floor all around me and shooting into the sky.




I don't get many visuals on any psychedelic including LSD. The best way for me to get visuals is by combining them. Acid with 2C-B for instance.




Wow...I always thought LSD owned anyone who dropped it, which is what I thought in my case...when an hour passed after I did and I was already tripping harder than on 3.5g of shrooms I knew I was in trouble!!!

Your testimony is quite strange...I have a few diagnostic possibilities for your problem. Either:

A: you burnt out your 5-HT2A serotonin receptors.
B: you drop waayyy too much acid and you burnt out your 5-HT2A receptors.
C: you haven't experienced true LSD yet and that's a real shame because you haven't yet burnt out your 5-HT2A receptors...
D: you take low doses of LSD


I think I speak for everyone when I suggest a 500+mcg dose and then report back...?? You shouldn't need to mix LSD with anything else...and if you do, you really need to stop tripping lol...


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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: tyler_0_durden]
    #8046393 - 02/20/08 08:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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tyler_0_durden said:
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donvliet said:
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EllisDSox said:
I can't see how anyone could think LSD isn't very visual. I mean, I know it effects everyone differently, but last time I tripped I had giant rainbows covered in holy symbols bursting out of the floor all around me and shooting into the sky.




I don't get many visuals on any psychedelic including LSD. The best way for me to get visuals is by combining them. Acid with 2C-B for instance.




Wow...I always thought LSD owned anyone who dropped it, which is what I thought in my case...when an hour passed after I did and I was already tripping harder than on 3.5g of shrooms I knew I was in trouble!!!

Your testimony is quite strange...I have a few diagnostic possibilities for your problem. Either:

A: you burnt out your 5-HT2A serotonin receptors.
B: you drop waayyy too much acid and you burnt out your 5-HT2A receptors.
C: you haven't experienced true LSD yet and that's a real shame because you haven't yet burnt out your 5-HT2A receptors...
D: you take low doses of LSD


I think I speak for everyone when I suggest a 500+mcg dose and then report back...?? You shouldn't need to mix LSD with anything else...and if you do, you really need to stop tripping lol...




I have tripped on nearly 20 different psychedelics in large and small doses over a period of 15 years. I just don't get that many visuals, even when tripping really hard. Just some breathing/waving and intensified colors on strong trips, that's about it. I have done high doses of acid and had total ego obliteration and very enlightening experiences but I don't get as many visuals as most people on the same drug (same batch). It's been like that from my first trip ever and I used to be disappointed about that. But I have accepted this a long time ago because for me it isn't the most important aspect of tripping anyways.

I don't need to mix acid with anything else. It's my favorite psychedelic and I enjoy it immensely on it's own. It can blow me away without combining with anything else, I just don't get that many visuals. But I like to combine psychedelics sometimes because you can create unique experiences that way and it allows me to tune the trip more to my wishes and get the bonus of more visuals with some combos.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: donvliet]
    #8046676 - 02/20/08 10:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"Wow...I always thought LSD owned anyone who dropped it, which is what I thought in my case...when an hour passed after I did and I was already tripping harder than on 3.5g of shrooms I knew I was in trouble!!!" lol yeah it can deffinatly do that here and there


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