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ImperialCactus
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LSD vs. Research Chemicals
#8039729 - 02/18/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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That thread about not getting much in the way of visuals on LSD had me thinking, and I figured this question was too off topic to post there. So, i'm wondering if there's anyone out there who enjoys a certain RC more than LSD, and can be sure of this.
Main reason why I ask is that i've taken LSD three different times now, and I have no reason to suspect that it wasn't real... but of course I can't be sure. Thing is, the first trip was amazing, very visual and what i'd expect LSD to be like. The second two were mostly just uncomfortable and weird.
Considering that the set and setting were pretty much the same, I can't believe how different the experiences were. Which makes me wonder, maybe it was some sort of RC that first or possibly second time? Or is it normal for LSD trips to feel very different sometimes?
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robbyberto
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How long have your trips lasted?
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Achilles
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i cant say much cuz ive never doen an RC and dont plan on doing so. but every time i took lsd i had a blast...visuals dpend on the dosage. even on the high doses where i was completly obliterated i still had a good time. one time though i had "dirty" acid that just didnt feel right...back twists and uncomfortable body feeling...thats the only thing i can guess at what would change the aspect of your trips.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: Achilles]
#8039766 - 02/18/08 07:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok man, I can't say much on this topic yet but I'll be getting a good amount of 2c-e pretty soon and I have heard really good things about it. Very nice visuals and a very deep experience is common. I will post some good information when I try my 2c-e.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: robbyberto]
#8039893 - 02/18/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, the first time it was around 7 hours or so I think. That was from two very small blotters of what I thought was weak LSD. Took around 1 1/2 hours to feel it, no weird taste or anything bad about it at all really and it really was everything I thought LSD would be. Completely enjoyable and one of the most fun drug experiences of my life.
The second two times were from blotter that was still small but seemed rather thick as far as paper goes. Anyways, two hits of that was probably a good 10 hours of uncomfortable physical sensations with swirling patterns during the peak, but that's about it. These hit me real fast too, within 30 minutes I knew it was going to get interesting real quick. One hit of that was pretty much the same just less intense. Also, the whole time it felt like I was right on the edge of it being too much, even when I knew it wasn't and was still with it.
So, i'm really not sure what to make of that... I don't have much reason to believe any of it wasn't LSD, but I certainly can't be sure either.
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It sounds like the last two times were RC's. Acid lasts about 8 hours unless your taking significant doses as in 10+ hits. RC's are obvious because they last a very long time; usually about 10+ hours. They also have very unusual characteristics like an intense body load or insane visuals on low doses. Unusually thick paper or big blotters generally means RC unless you have a BADASS hookup.
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d4a2n0k
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I have noticed that LSD isn't very visual with out something to stimulate it. Mushrooms or Mj work REALLY well. I have heard mescaline is wonderful combo too, but have never tried it. One of my more profund trips was with 2.5 grams of mushrooms and 1 hit of good white blotter LSD.
LSD by itself gives me amazing mind trips, but to really experience the immersing visuals, I need something else to synergize with it.
Almost every amazing experience I have ever had on LSD has immediately followed me smoking some Mj.
LSD is a strange and different beast, no 2 trips are the same. If your blotter was small and tasteless, and made you trip, it wasn't a RC. Some trips just take a strange turn, just remember it all happens for some purpose. Buy the ticket, take the ride.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: d4a2n0k]
#8040016 - 02/18/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I once took something a friend said was acid but I believe it was an RC. Two clear little tabs and all I got was a clouded head and a an uncomfortable clenched jaw sensation.
By the way, what does RC stand for?
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: d4a2n0k]
#8040020 - 02/18/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You feel LSD longer than 8 hours, though the later part is much different than the initial 8 hours. I wouldn't say whether or not they were RCs, no one can tell you that without testing the chemical. Unless it lasts like 18 hours.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: fapjack]
#8040110 - 02/18/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I feel comfortable judging from his description of small tasteless blotters, it is most likely not a RC. As you said no one can be 100% but as far as I'm aware, LSD is the only tasteless micro-gram active dose psychedelic.
BTW, RC means research chemical.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: d4a2n0k]
#8040168 - 02/18/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think LSD is much deeper, and has more "classic" or unique feel than most RCs, but sometimes I wish I had some 2c-b for parties or weekends.
I was sold "acid" that was RC once and it was really different. The hallmarks of LSD for me are:
1. Everything has a shine to it 2. Movements and time happens in quick flashes 3. I feel kind of like floating above my body, similar to MDMA. Most the 2cs, DOXs and tryptamines have very different body feels. 4. Cool neon hues are emphasized, while the others are usually warmer colors. 5. Fairly inanimate and geometrical visuals. 6. Real LSD dissolves spacial and psychological boundaries more than any other chemical I have used. It always feels very spacious.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: Divided_Sky]
#8040798 - 02/18/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have tripped on acid multiple times recently and through my research I would say acid lasts 8 to 12 hours. My acis was in a vial 3/4 water 1/4 acid. one vial=2 doses. had very visual to not very visual tripps.
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I just had some DOB over the weekend along with some good mushies. After the obvious effects of the mushrooms wore off, I felt the DOB full on and it was markedly different than acid or any other RC I've tried.
The DOB lasted only about 9 hrs, which is relatively short for it, but it was a very speedy mental trip with confusing and nonsensical CEV's. Patterns on the wall shifted and my popcorn ceiling started to morph into patterns, but other than that it wasn't immersing like LSD or Mushrooms, or even 2C's. No euphoria or enlightenment.
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donvliet
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Quote:
ImperialCactus said: The second two times were from blotter that was still small but seemed rather thick as far as paper goes. Anyways, two hits of that was probably a good 10 hours of uncomfortable physical sensations with swirling patterns during the peak, but that's about it. These hit me real fast too, within 30 minutes I knew it was going to get interesting real quick. One hit of that was pretty much the same just less intense. Also, the whole time it felt like I was right on the edge of it being too much, even when I knew it wasn't and was still with it.
Very few psychedelics will hit you within 30 minutes. Most RCs take way longer before they hit, especially the ones that fit on blotter. LSD on the other hand can hit you within 30 minutes. It was probably acid. Some people blame "dirty acid" on contaminants from the synth, others think the "dirty" feeling is caused by set & setting.
I have had batches of acid that produced consistently cleaner trips than other batches, while I'm convinced all of them were acid. I've done a lot of acid and tried enough RCs to tell the difference. I have never had an RC that produced a trip that I could mistake for acid. DOC was the closest but the time it takes to come up alone is a give-away and the trip still isn't close enough to pass for acid when you know acid.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: donvliet]
#8041355 - 02/19/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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To me 2c-I is kinda like the halfway point between rolling and a 2c-e trip, a 2c-e trip is kind of like a disappointing acid trip, though still very fun. With 2c-e you can get strong visuals (20mg+), sound distortion and a pretty nice head trip, more of a "forgiving drug" then acid. In all honesty i've tripped 2c-e around 9 times, only done acid 3 but I do have to say that acid is just an all around better trip, if it wasn't so damn long sometimes.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: donvliet]
#8042293 - 02/19/08 10:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, all things considered what I took probably was LSD... but it still leaves me wondering if there are any RC's out there that people enjoy more than LSD. From what I can tell, that seems unlikely... but if I were able to find a certain one from a reliable source it would be nice to at least know what i'm taking for sure. Anyways, thanks for the replies so far... they have helped clear things up a bit for me.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: donvliet]
#8042310 - 02/19/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very few psychedelics will hit you within 30 minutes.
Orally, yes. Rectal,IV, nasal, IM and smoked inhalation of psychedelics will always hit you in less than half an hour.
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EllisDSox
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I can't see how anyone could think LSD isn't very visual. I mean, I know it effects everyone differently, but last time I tripped I had giant rainbows covered in holy symbols bursting out of the floor all around me and shooting into the sky.
In my experience, RC's feel similar to acid but with a very dirty tinge to them, and lots of unpleasant physical effects. I haven't pursued RC's too much, though, and there are definitely some worthwhile ones, just nothing in my experience that can come close to LSD.
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donvliet
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: robbyberto]
#8042350 - 02/19/08 10:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very few psychedelics will hit you within 30 minutes.
Orally, yes. Rectal,IV, nasal, IM and smoked inhalation of psychedelics will always hit you in less than half an hour.
You're right. I didn't mention that because the op was talking about oral consumption.
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Re: LSD vs. Research Chemicals [Re: EllisDSox]
#8042367 - 02/19/08 11:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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EllisDSox said: I can't see how anyone could think LSD isn't very visual. I mean, I know it effects everyone differently, but last time I tripped I had giant rainbows covered in holy symbols bursting out of the floor all around me and shooting into the sky.
I don't get many visuals on any psychedelic including LSD. The best way for me to get visuals is by combining them. Acid with 2C-B for instance.
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