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Re: Alcohol Mescaline extraction [Re: SDP]
    #8048290 - 02/20/08 05:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thats what i thought thanks

im going to be starting som bridgesii seeds really soon, so im studying up on best ways to use, i think ill like this better cause bridgesii has a closer profile to peyote than pachanoi or so ive heard, anyway, thanks for the info, itll be a lot easier than extracting

ill prolly skin it and remove it from the core, how exactly is it hard? if uve got a nice sharp knife it shouldnt give you any problems should it?
or is the flesh a lot tougher than i figure


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Re: Alcohol Mescaline extraction [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8048353 - 02/20/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I wish I could test these things myself so I could give actual first-hand data, but the best that I (or anybody else around here) can do is point you toward the emperical evidence discovered by scientists using approved scientific methods. What they have discovered is that bridgesii contains fewer alkaloids than most cacti, making it a relatively pure source of mescaline. On the other hand, peyote contains more alkaloids than most.

Bridgesii contains: mescaline, tyramine, 3-methoxytyramine, 3-4-dimethoxyphenethylamine.

Peyote contains: N-acetyl-3-methoxy-4,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, alanine, anhalamine, anhalidine, anhalinine, anhalonidine (14% of the total alkaloids), anhalonine, anhalotine, 3,4-dihydroxy-5-methoxyphenethylamine, epinine, dopamine, 3,4-dimethoxyphenethylamine, N-acetylanhalamine, N-acetylanhalonine, N-formylanhalamine, N-formylanhalinine, N-formylanhalonidine, N-formylanhalonine, N-formyl-O-methylanhalonidine, N-formyl-3-methoxy-4,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, glycine (8% of the total alkaloids), hordenine, 3-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine (1 to 5% of the total alkaloids), isoanhalamine, isoanhalonidine, 3-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxy-N-methylphenethylamine, isoanhalidine, isopellotine, lophophorine (5% of the total alkaloids), 3-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxy-N,N-dimethoxyphenethylamine, lophorine, lophotine iodide, mescaline (30% of the total alkaloids), mescaline citrimide, mescaline malaimide, mescaline maleimide, mescaline succinimide, isocitrimide lactone mescaline , N-acetylmescaline, N-formylmescaline, N-methylmescaline, mescalotam, 3-methoxytyramine, 3-methoxy-N-methyltyramine, 3-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltyramine, O-methylanhalonidine, O-methylpeyoxylic acid, O-methylpeyoruvic acid, N-methyltyramine, pellotine (17% of the total alkaloids), peyoglunal, peyoglutam, peyonine, peyophorine, peyouvic acid, peyotine iodide, peyoxylic acid, tyramine

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_guide/cacti_guide_lophopho.shtml

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Re: Alcohol Mescaline extraction [Re: 04281969]
    #8048434 - 02/20/08 06:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

remember tho half that crap is in active tho you could specualate since shulgin didnt really touch much on this, that maybe when multipule in active ones are combined they could produce an effect. kinda like how the Gov has apporoved chemicals to be filtered out the water yet dont filter out ones that when combined become harmful watched a special on it, on some learning channel


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