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shevanel
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When prepping jars for G2G...
#8037582 - 02/18/08 11:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is it okay to just use the ring and a tyvek layer as a lid?
The polyfill method with 1/4" hole + tyvek?
Or is there a better method?
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blood4blood
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: shevanel]
#8037600 - 02/18/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think synthetic filter disks are the best way to go. my 2nd choice would be the tyvek lids. they worked great for me till i got my disks
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: blood4blood]
#8037610 - 02/18/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you want a lid that you can quickly take off and quickly put back on, preferably with one hand
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: shroober]
#8037624 - 02/18/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shroober said: you want a lid that you can quickly take off and quickly put back on, preferably with one hand
 thats why filter disks are great
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: blood4blood]
#8037737 - 02/18/08 12:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Synthetic Filter Disks - RR put 2 metal lids rubber side up with 3 holes drilled in with the synthetic filter disk on top so that any moisture that gets on the lid has a hard time getting to the disk decreasing chances of contamination. Sterilizable and reusable for life (not for food canning) 99.97% efficient filtration down to .3 microns.
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Actually, it was one metal lid, followed by the synthetic filter disk or tyvek, with the ring going on last. RR
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8037874 - 02/18/08 01:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No way...I gotta watch the video again then...I'm 100% confident I saw 2 of them right under each other in the same formation as the first lid
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shevanel
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I don't have filter disks atm, but I may use them in the future.
I guess I'm just going to use a layer of tyvek, no lid disk, and fasten with ring... I'll be sure to slightly lift the tyvek layer to drops some transfer material in...
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: shevanel]
#8038059 - 02/18/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you want to have both the metal lid and tyvek followed by the metal band. if you dont have the metal lid with some holes in it your brf,rye,wbs etc will dry out way to fast.
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shevanel
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: blood4blood]
#8039665 - 02/18/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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blood4blood said: you want to have both the metal lid and tyvek followed by the metal band. if you dont have the metal lid with some holes in it your brf,rye,wbs etc will dry out way to fast.
Ah ok.
As for filterdisks, only the ring is used or the ring and lid?
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: shevanel]
#8039977 - 02/18/08 08:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
shevanel said:
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blood4blood said: you want to have both the metal lid and tyvek followed by the metal band. if you dont have the metal lid with some holes in it your brf,rye,wbs etc will dry out way to fast.
Ah ok.
As for filterdisks, only the ring is used or the ring and lid?
you still need the metal lid with the 4 small holes in it then the filter disk then the metal band over that.
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: blood4blood]
#8039990 - 02/18/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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for a grain to grain i would use a plastic lid with a polyfill filter. Taking this lid off/on will be much easier with one hand with this type of lid. metal band/lids and tyvek with metal bands might require two hands and one of the hands should be holding the spawn master
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: tahoe]
#8040004 - 02/18/08 08:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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tahoe said: for a grain to grain i would use a plastic lid with a polyfill filter. Taking this lid off/on will be much easier with one hand with this type of lid. metal band/lids and tyvek with metal bands might require two hands and one of the hands should be holding the spawn master
that would be very ideal. but ive gotten away many times with doing it with the filter disks. i just ordered a bunch of whatmans and am following your tek for making the lids so hopefully i wont even need filterdisks anymore
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shevanel
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: blood4blood]
#8040456 - 02/18/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, now I'm getting concerned as to whether or not I should even attempt this without FDisk and with metal rings, in a still air box, properly sanitized is the margin for error really that large?
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: shevanel]
#8040664 - 02/18/08 10:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No room for error. just draw around a lid on the tyvek envelope material and cut it out carefully. use two to make your own filter disk. it'll look like this
metal lid upside down (rubber side up) with 3 1/16 th inch holes near the middle of the lid. two circles of tyvek on top of that then the ring holding it all on.
When you want to do G2G just take off the ring and tyvek disks. they have been exposed to dirty air while the grain was growing over so you don't want them in your clean box. wipe your gloved hands with alcohol after you remove them from the clean box. lift the lid when you need to to pour colonized grain into another grain jar.
don't forget to wipe the bottles down with alcohol before you put them in the box.
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shevanel
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: Peterthinks]
#8040708 - 02/18/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Peterthinks said: No room for error. just draw around a lid on the tyvek envelope material and cut it out carefully. use two to make your own filter disk. it'll look like this
metal lid upside down (rubber side up) with 3 1/16 th inch holes near the middle of the lid. two circles of tyvek on top of that then the ring holding it all on.
When you want to do G2G just take off the ring and tyvek disks. they have been exposed to dirty air while the grain was growing over so you don't want them in your clean box. wipe your gloved hands with alcohol after you remove them from the clean box. lift the lid when you need to to pour colonized grain into another grain jar.
don't forget to wipe the bottles down with alcohol before you put them in the box.
I'm not considered one of the most stupidest people around and I also thank you very much for taking the time to chime in and make it easier for me to understand, but man you just confused the shit out of me!
So, don't use a SA/GB? (dontput them in a clean box*) Wipe what "bottles", the alcohol bottle? What do you mean by dirty air as the grain was growing over? Wipe gloves when removing them from box? inside or out?
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shevanel
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Re: When prepping jars for G2G... [Re: shevanel]
#8040729 - 02/18/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Or I could just make a damn still air box for 4 hands... one nig to scoop another to open jar.. maybe get a quick thumb rasslin match in while were at it... AHHHH
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