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anyone420
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a. Muscaria's and LSD
#8037152 - 02/18/08 09:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can they be mixed safely?
If so, would it be enjoyable?
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thedudenj
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: anyone420]
#8037162 - 02/18/08 09:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ha ha thats a good question
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: thedudenj]
#8037330 - 02/18/08 10:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I haven't don't too much mixing of entheogens. I will soon though. This would probably be pretty crazy, I can't see any physical problems although you might be pretty blitzed. Depending on the person and dosage I'm sure it could be enjoyable. Check erowid for experience of drug mixing.
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thedudenj
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: Jair]
#8037353 - 02/18/08 10:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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with out a doubt there shouldnt really be any physical issues with this, But it will be strange cause amanita produces such a unique effect where as lsd produces an effect you can find similar to other stuff tho you never know. Psilocybes and amanita is neat. I would think one of them will stay dominate while the other spurs it on. If once engauges in and amanita OBE i would think the lsd would have no effect for that portion. I have foud amanita OBE to be the point of being in whole nother world. I guess its kinda like sleep and dreaming where things only get as strange as your dreams do. or something of that such. i think i will find a team of researchers to test this out lol.
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: thedudenj]
#8037513 - 02/18/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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in the book _psychedelic chemistry_ (by "valentine smith") it was suggested that alone, ibotenic acid/muscimol is often not worth the hassle, but that combining sub-threshold amounts of A muscaria (or A pantherina) with psilocybin or LSD or even mescaline, is often quite worthwhile...
& then there's always adding a bit of harmine/harmaline to the mix, hehheh...
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: gnrm23]
#8037704 - 02/18/08 12:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Makes me want to put a certain red mushroom in my ayahuasca.
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thedudenj
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: Moo456]
#8037791 - 02/18/08 12:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well as i said when i did that one time was really nice the other time, i went to hell and met a person who ODed on heroin that same night and told them they were dead. its a really strange mix that can but you in some hard spots(hausca in general and amanita)
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: gnrm23]
#8037936 - 02/18/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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gnrm23 said: in the book _psychedelic chemistry_ (by "valentine smith") it was suggested that alone, ibotenic acid/muscimol is often not worth the hassle, but that combining sub-threshold amounts of A muscaria (or A pantherina) with psilocybin or LSD or even mescaline, is often quite worthwhile...
& then there's always adding a bit of harmine/harmaline to the mix, hehheh...
Interesting, thanks for posting this. Well my mind is made up !
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: anyone420]
#8039467 - 02/18/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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report back brave psychonaut 
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: blacksun]
#8039635 - 02/18/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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A couple friends of mine each ate 1/16th oz of cubes and about 1/3 of a large dry A. muscaria cap. Apparently it made the experience much more intense than a mere 1/16th oz cubes, and increased the visuals greatly (although their visuals also had a very dark energy). Sounded like a very interesting experiment.
I imagine LSD + A muscaria would be similarly interesting... can't see anything that might make the combo dangerous.
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anyone420
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Well i have about zip of amanitas and 10 tabs of lsd (moderate), so i'll be doing multiple experiments and i will report back !
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thedudenj
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: anyone420]
#8041908 - 02/19/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ha ha im still gona stand by fresh amanita are better tho and will do research with those kind.
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: thedudenj]
#8041954 - 02/19/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: ha ha im still gona stand by fresh amanita are better tho and will do research with those kind.
Everything i have read about a. muscaria's say that dried and cooked are better than fresh and raw. Has something to do with converting toxins to mucimol, i believe.
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thedudenj
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: anyone420]
#8043000 - 02/19/08 02:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i know the only people that i know of that suggest fresh are me and that wacky hawk guy lol, he said when fresh it kicks in right away and thats exactly what it did for me when i did it that way. In all honesty really fresh had no nausea with it, hit shortly after swallowing then at the normal 2h mark a heavy Trance and OBE. Which will also note a pain relief factor was there a i accidentally hit my knee really hard with out it bruising or hurting. As silly as it sounds im gona have to go with the fact that i took it under the context that it was a healing tool and holy.
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: thedudenj]
#8043032 - 02/19/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There is just as much misinformation with A.Muscaria as there is with any other drug...
Amanitas need to be dried or heated to relieve them of their duty to make you puke. Don't really claim to know the sciences behind it, but one of the chems is converted when heated or dried... Now, I said heated, not COOKED or BOILED... If you cook it up too much, all you end up with as a cooked mushroom (a very tasty one though)...
As far as effects, They vary from one cap/stem to the next.... I've had slight effects from 30 grams, and an entire rebirth process from 20 grams....
If you wanna jump off the deep end with amanitas egyptian style, it can be done.. May take getting to know the substance a little bit first....
Now, partying siberian style is as simple as eating a couple of caps, drinking a little ale, and smoking a little green.... Yes. Amanitas are highly augmented by other substances..
threshold amounts are king of like being a little drunk... Heroic doses are like living your life backwards to birth in one night.
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thedudenj
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: Fraggin]
#8043099 - 02/19/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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thats the thing about em exactly. but i had rebirth from patherina 2 caps one black grey and one white grey then crushed and mixed with 2 parts milk in a ritualistic fashion after having a RXist explain his trip in india and how the stuff was prepared when he was in college and the effects of this seemingly amanita like unknown indian stuff that was powdered. it yelled amanita to me. so i did it and got death and rebirth hard. another time a 9g dried cap was like going to hell and was way way way more inhibriating as well as psychological. which in turn lead to one tiny cap and .3 of cannabis in eggs with mugwort sage and wormwood, which lead me to really intense OBE in which 2 years of my life flashed before me in which i was in the state of the 9g trip for part of it. really intense. so i can imagine either of them could easily dominate each other can cancel one out.
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: thedudenj]
#8043185 - 02/19/08 02:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I usually stick to 2-3 caps and a few stems, simmer them for maybe 45 minutes then strain and drink. Hasn't failed me yet.
I've heard that the stems aren't usually used, however i figure that if im making tea of of them it probably doesn't hurt to throw them in. I mostly do this because i've read conflicting information on the stems.
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thedudenj
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Re: a. Muscaria's and LSD [Re: anyone420]
#8043203 - 02/19/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i made a tea of strain stems i dont know how many and it worked just as well. i have to agree tho doing the same as you said hasnt failed me either, i have gotten 56g of dried online of two differnt types and split between 3 people in which we ate them dried,smoked some with salvia and wormwood, and had tea, having an amazing time tho one person had smaller effects tho i think this was do to me and the 2nd person having a stronger connection and the 3rd not.
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