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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: Maverick]
    #24297176 - 05/05/17 09:46 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

It is the norm here to be respectful to fellow road users, in such your two breast becomes one when a car is coming or if there is a constant bustle of cars then two breast is not an option.

Everyone knows this.

It's probably against the law to be acting the shit on a bike.

But not there though.

It sounds like they are trying for a two wheeled revolution.

Continue to be annoyed by us and blow gaskets in your brain and knock us down or come join us.

I heard it'll be 4-a-breast soon, blocking the transaustralia highway where the truckers make impossibly long miles.

I would imagine long distance truckers on speed on a deadline would have more understanding for such a cause.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #24297194 - 05/05/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #24297198 - 05/05/17 10:00 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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I would imagine long distance truckers on speed on a deadline would have more understanding for such a cause.





yeah i feel bad for them being on tight asf schedules and having to deal with that bullshit


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: indica]
    #24297201 - 05/05/17 10:02 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

pretty sure here in Oz in most places it's against the law to be going unreasonably slower than the posted speed limit on highways or country roads. somehow this doesnt apply to cyclists who demand to be allowed to occupy as much of the road as a whole other vehicle and dont even pay any fucking additional tax/registration on their bikes or the roads they use

you have to register trail bikes for riding recreationally on ppublic land, why dont cyclists have to be registered to use the roads? not that i agree with it, but why are they exempt?

again, not having a go at the commuters who genuinely use it for commuting, but the sporting cyyclists


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: indica]
    #24297205 - 05/05/17 10:03 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

i am flogging this dead horse to death


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: indica]
    #24297222 - 05/05/17 10:12 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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How the hell are you supposed to do that lol

The law here is 3 feet and that's generally the best that can be managed.


There's a law against impeding traffic here too. Honestly all the laws protecting cyclists are designed to protect people who actually use it as a means of transportation. It's not meant for the douches in spandex that ride 4 abreast with their cycling club.

Every time I've come upon them clearly ging or coming from home they're in these super upscale neighborhoods where houses average nearly a million dollars.


Leave it to the rich to take advantage of rules designed to protect the poor.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24297279 - 05/05/17 10:37 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I cycle on the footpath a bit if I don't want to deal with traffic.

I don't have a bell so I weave and wait and ask can I pass.

There are many cycle lanes on the footpaths.

How big is Australia again?

How much land is in use?

I can tell great planning went into street layout when cyclists are getting in the way of cars on a continent sized rock.

No, let's make the road two cars wide and no wider, because there is really not much space and I can't envision a population increase.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: goldcaphunter] * 1
    #24297331 - 05/05/17 10:58 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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You guys realize the first acid trip was on a bicycle right?

I ride by nets elf mostly and in seeat pants and a t with a back pack. I mmdmmmmm



Yeah, but I guarantee he wasn't riding side by side with 10 other hippies on a 55 mph road


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24297985 - 05/05/17 04:36 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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given drivers tendencies, i'd say cycling on the road is more so stupid & dangerous.

cars are for retards.

there, i said it.

pollute the planet some more so you can take a commute to your piddling body-shuffler, for the day, and then back, all for nothin'. then, make effort to complain about other people's insufferable lives, and how they travel.

damn a city be so inefficient yo.







lol the side walk is full of pedestrians and other obstructions. It's illegal here and for a good reason.


you'll kill or at least hurt someone seriously someone doing that. It doesn't stop the occasional asshole from doing it - but if everyone did it then there'd be alot more pedestrians injured and this city is already dangerous enough.

Within like three months three people right around my old apartment died last year trying to cross the street when they had right of way due to motorists who were making a turn without paying enough attention - In the fall I saw the aftermath of this particularly gruesome incident http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/11/28/officials-woman-dead-struck-by-septa-bus-in-center-city/ - cars definitely help make the city more dangerous for everyone, but cyclists who don't follow the law(riding with traffic, staying the fuck off the sidewalk) have hurt and killed people before too.


On the flipside as someone who has biked around the city a lot - you'll get morons who will literally walk right infront of your bike and look at you like a deer in headlights that you'd got to avoid just the same as the morons in cars that will mow you down.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #24298049 - 05/05/17 05:10 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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I cycle on the footpath a bit if I don't want to deal with traffic.

I don't have a bell so I weave and wait and ask can I pass.

There are many cycle lanes on the footpaths.

How big is Australia again?

How much land is in use?

I can tell great planning went into street layout when cyclists are getting in the way of cars on a continent sized rock.

No, let's make the road two cars wide and no wider, because there is really not much space and I can't envision a population increase.




There's actually a lot of road widening going on everywere because of congestion issues and also beccause the govt just wanted to find a way to give mining/resource conloerate billions of dollars (like widening highwyas or bypassing towns that actually dont need it at all)

youd think with all this extra room the cyclists would have plenty of room without impeding traffic, with massive emergency lanes or like 1.5 meter wide curbs (between the grass and the white line that marks the outside of the lane) but nope. still gotta take up an entire fucking lane


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: indica]
    #24298103 - 05/05/17 05:32 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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lol the side walk is full of pedestrians and other obstructions. It's illegal here and for a good reason.


you'll kill or at least hurt someone seriously someone doing that. It doesn't stop the occasional asshole from doing it - but if everyone did it then there'd be alot more pedestrians injured and this city is already dangerous enough.




who the fuck is speed cycling through sidewalks.

obviously you go slow and open your eyes, and you'll not even come close to anyone, because you'll actively avoid them.

but then again, i don't live downtown in a busy place...so it's fine for me to do so.

if i had gotten a fine, i'd spit on it. fuck senseless laws.

no harm? no foul.

PS: way more people gonna die on the road.

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youd think with all this extra room the cyclists would have plenty of room without impeding traffic, with massive emergency lanes or like 1.5 meter wide curbs (between the grass and the white line that marks the outside of the lane) but nope. still gotta take up an entire fucking lane




everyone, get a full-fledged vehicle, to take up the whole lane, so you don't confuse indica with all that open space.

that. or get the guberment to build all new roads for the sum few cyclists because people in cars have trouble maintaining their pedal operation, and can't function while having more control than any cyclist, because, hey, it's too hard to slow and accelerate in something like this...you gotta push pedals!

boy, i'm going so slow in my big fiberglass contained chassis, that i roll around in like a meals on wheels. man, i can't stand being safe and sound and moving at what speed is most comfortable, maintaining those goshdurn pedals under my feet! kill all cyclists! pay for more roads!

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i am flogging this dead horse to death



more licensing and taxes! wtf man, that's it...cars are now mandatory, or you can't use the roads. it's just inconvenient and damn it, i want uncle sam to do something about it.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24298142 - 05/05/17 05:47 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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lol the side walk is full of pedestrians and other obstructions. It's illegal here and for a good reason.


you'll kill or at least hurt someone seriously someone doing that. It doesn't stop the occasional asshole from doing it - but if everyone did it then there'd be alot more pedestrians injured and this city is already dangerous enough.




who the fuck is speed cycling through sidewalks.

obviously you go slow and open your eyes, and you'll not even come close to anyone, because you'll actively avoid them.

but then again, i don't live downtown in a busy place...so it's fine for me to do so.

if i had gotten a fine, i'd spit on it. fuck senseless laws.

no harm? no foul.

PS: way more people gonna die on the road.









Idiots do it - even if they're going at a slow pace they can hurt someone - these are the idiots that ride AGAINST traffic as well so they're not too bright. The key is that it gets very very congested - these people are doing this in areas where sometimes it's hard just to walk on the sidewalk because of the amount of other people who are there(and particularly those that have no self-awareness).


I've biked on the sidewalk before, it was late at night and there was very little foot traffic - I had a cop scream that he'd ticket me 50 bucks if I didn't get the fuck off the sidewalk - this was on a street with no bike lane with trolley tracks that will make anyone with a road bike eat shit if they bike over them the wrong way, so while I was only doing it because it was a particularly tricky street, it's still kind of a dick move here and  I get why it's illegal.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: pirate-blues]
    #24298156 - 05/05/17 05:53 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Idiots do it - even if they're going at a slow pace they can hurt someone - these are the idiots that ride AGAINST traffic as well so they're not too bright. The key is that it gets very very congested - these people are doing this in areas where sometimes it's hard just to walk on the sidewalk because of the amount of other people who are there(and particularly those that have no self-awareness).




on a busy street that's just dumb, it's different in that case. i mean, look...this might sound crass, i'll freely admit that...but in the city, downtown, isn't everything basically within walking distance? i know people are sooooo busy...but they should just either take public transport or just walk, if the sidewalks themselves are congested.

when i go downtown, where i live...there is like...maximum two people on either side of the street, in a block of road.

it's not hardly the same thing, so like i said, i might just be talking about of my ass but...they should just walk.

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I've biked on the sidewalk before, it was late at night and there was very little foot traffic - I had a cop scream that he'd ticket me 50 bucks if I didn't get the fuck off the sidewalk - this was on a street with no bike lane with trolley tracks that will make anyone with a road bike eat shit if they bike over them the wrong way, so while I was only doing it because it was a particularly tricky street, it's still kind of a dick move here and  I get why it's illegal.




well, i'd tell them cop to come here, i'd grab his fucking head and shift around into view of the street, and tell him to STFU it's a tricky street, i don't want to get hit on the busy road, fuck you you idiot, and then proceed to slam his helmet into sidewalk, for being such a stark-raving idiot.

i don't care much for rules, when those rules are inherently preventing me from being safe. :shrug:


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #24298189 - 05/05/17 06:13 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Idiots do it - even if they're going at a slow pace they can hurt someone - these are the idiots that ride AGAINST traffic as well so they're not too bright. The key is that it gets very very congested - these people are doing this in areas where sometimes it's hard just to walk on the sidewalk because of the amount of other people who are there(and particularly those that have no self-awareness).




on a busy street that's just dumb, it's different in that case. i mean, look...this might sound crass, i'll freely admit that...but in the city, downtown, isn't everything basically within walking distance? i know people are sooooo busy...but they should just either take public transport or just walk, if the sidewalks themselves are congested.

when i go downtown, where i live...there is like...maximum two people on either side of the street, in a block of road.

it's not hardly the same thing, so like i said, i might just be talking about of my ass but...they should just walk.







Ehh, in a way, public transit is really good(for SEPTA which as Kood's once remarked sounds like a disease, and it  deserves that). I live 600 feet from a trainstation myself BUT if you're not an idiot, this city is amazing to bike in. The neighborhood I live in now is kind of hilly and full of craters in the road, but as a whole the city is really flat and on most roads we've got bike lanes and it's honestly the fastest mode of transportation. Traffic sucks, SEPTA is good by American standards but has it's own set of shitty cons and the subway/regional rail is only 24 hours like one night a week(I think) so biking as silly as it sounds is so much easier and better than walking 4 miles home at 2am or standing outside waiting for a bus while freezing your ass  off.

As the amount of cyclists grow(and there's A LOT here already) they are adapting city infrastructure as best as they can, adding bike lanes(and there are much more now than back before my bike was stolen and I actually cycled around here) and just thinking about green spaces - converting old overground railroad systems that run above the city into parks, thinking in general about how we can better utilize space..and I think most people who live in the city itself see the increasing amount of cyclists and people who commute by bike as a mark of improvement. People who commute in via car may not like it, but they can suck a d.

It's a big city though, walking everywhere is not feasible. I live and work in the city but there's about 6 miles between myself and work - I can choose between the train, my car, bus, or the trail by the river that I can safely bike on for the vast majority of it(and a  mile on a flat road with a bike lane - it's still heavily congested and is a shitshow during rush hour but it's far from the worst road to bike on here). I definitely want to get a new bike for nice days.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: pirate-blues]
    #24298224 - 05/05/17 06:29 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

that's clears up alot. (bike lanes seem to help alot. where i live, there are no bike paths, save one, that cuts across town.)
talking about pros and cons, though, you know what sucks...travelling. it's annoying. especially since people think it's so goddamn important that their travel remain unimpinged, while everyone else can "fuck off".

lol, it's sorta like politics...there is no ability for people to just fess up that our way of handling things are crap, and just admit that "oh yeah, none of this is easy for anyone, let's not just worry about my personal accommodations".

frankly, there is no easy answers or solutions to any of these so-called "problems", so people's complaints seem rather bizarre and maybe a bit non-sensible.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #24298239 - 05/05/17 06:38 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

It may clear it up even further if I tell you that the absolute LATEST I can leave if I'm going to drive is 8am to get to my job, 6 miles away, by 9. If I was a moron and decided to get on the express way I'd have to leave earlier. If I take the train the only safe bet is catching the 7:57...there's another one that comes at 8:15 but it's a 20 minute train ride to my stop,  and a 10 minute walk, and the trains are generally 15 minutes late at least a few days out of the week.

Taking an uber, cab or bus is a last ditch for when I can't use my car - which I have to find parking for, because my job have about 5 reserved spots on the communal lot and if you're parked there when any of the executives are coming in or anyone else more important than you is in..it doesn't look good.


Traveling would be so much easier if I was the only one doing it hahaha.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: pirate-blues]
    #24298271 - 05/05/17 06:51 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

or if you didn't have a go 6 miles.

but there isn't any easy way around that bullshit. so when people want to complain about changing like "the rules" because 'fucking cyclists!' -- it makes me facepalm. like, how bout if we all commit to restructuring everything...only public transport allowed on public roads, so less congestion, then you can make a private (most likely tolled) highway to get out of the city and into more private (and hopefully poorly maintained!) roads, for you know, recreation.

then, we have more congestion problems fixed by making a waypoint between several districts for business and commerce...think of this as a publicly mass funded Simcity 2000 overall of the civic centre of the city...all roads lead to Rome...we need everything lined up, neat and orderly...basically, anything you want to consume is a bus/train ticket away, and if you work in a factory job, you can then commute a bit further, but you still only need one ticket!

then to get home, you have to use uber.

this is the NEW WAY, little sister.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #24298365 - 05/05/17 07:37 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Teleportation portals. Problem solved.


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: Canadian Jesus]
    #24299256 - 05/06/17 07:49 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I've always had more issues with cyclists on my bicycle than I have in my vehicle- it gets annoying when they cut you off while you're driving, but it's something I can deal with as a bicycle isn't going to do any damage to an armored truck.  It only pisses me off when I'm cycling and I have to put myself in danger for the convenience of a bunch of fools who want to chat like it's sunday tea time while cycling down a windy, 45mph road (where everyone's doing 55mph).

The only time riding abreast is okay is when you've got the double-buffered bicycle lane (where you've got a bicycle lane and an extra 'lane' next to the sidewalk like below:




This is the only time that you can ride abreast on a road without impeding on others (provided you pay attention to behind you, to allow other bicyclists to pass).


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Re: I fucking hate cyclists [Re: Maverick]
    #24313387 - 05/12/17 01:31 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

If you bike into me or anyone I'm with while I'm walking I'm going to beat your ass. If you cause me to crash or damage my vehicle in any way I'm going to beat your ass in the middle of the road.

Just leave the bike at home dude, or save it for the trails.

What the fuck man...people have shit to do


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