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Invisibledumbfounded1600
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Last Question About Potency
    #8036182 - 02/18/08 12:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Does psilocybin/psilocin actively increase as it gets bigger by .001 or is that just false advertising.


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8036190 - 02/18/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

From what i have read it doesnt increase it has the same amount within a pin as it does in a full mature mushroom the only difference is that it has more mass to get the same exact chemical amount.


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #8036200 - 02/18/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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From what i have read it doesnt increase it has the same amount within a pin as it does in a full mature mushroom the only difference is that it has more mass to get the same exact chemical amount.





That's exactly what I've heard, also. For years now..just digging up old threads for some of the new peoples thoughts heh


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8036528 - 02/18/08 02:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If that were the case you could just eat aborts and expect the same potency as fully grown shrooms, so no, that is not the case. Pins have a greater concentration per volume, but there is a significantly greater amount of psilocin in bigger mushrooms.


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: Cabinet_Sanchez]
    #8036895 - 02/18/08 07:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No pins are just less mass to them


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8037017 - 02/18/08 08:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the real change in potency is where you grow... and what your growin with...


you never really notice until you go from pf tek to poo and actually test the shrooms... or if you grow outside or inside.. not alot of people talk about it but shrooms that grow outdoors are much more potent than indoors

no science to back it up just trip experince over the years


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #8037275 - 02/18/08 10:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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preschooler said:
the real change in potency is where you grow... and what your growin with...


you never really notice until you go from pf tek to poo and actually test the shrooms... or if you grow outside or inside.. not alot of people talk about it but shrooms that grow outdoors are much more potent than indoors

no science to back it up just trip experince over the years





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Cabinet_Sanchez said:
If that were the case you could just eat aborts and expect the same potency as fully grown shrooms, so no, that is not the case. Pins have a greater concentration per volume, but there is a significantly greater amount of psilocin in bigger mushrooms.





ok both of those statements are incorrect potency is not based on what your growing with as i have had killer mushrooms on pf and crap on manure that is based on genetics...I have also had ahandful of aborts maybe that weighed 2 grams and had a full trip where usually i would have to take 7-8 grams for the same trip ( has happened multiple times this way).


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #8037333 - 02/18/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's genetic and that's just the way it is...everyone knows it...Example like xaxphaanes said...I was just wonder if it keeps growing the actives on each gram....Ahh..Sorry I made this thread my answer was my answer and has never changed


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8037475 - 02/18/08 11:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

In my personal experiance as well as a few other people, I generally when going to trip i will give away my big mushies and eat the abhorts because in my opinion i get a better trip off of them then i do a full shroom i dunno if this is just a placebo effect or not but in my experiance abhorts are more potent


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #8037598 - 02/18/08 11:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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In my personal experiance as well as a few other people, I generally when going to trip i will give away my big mushies and eat the abhorts




Haha, you're an asshole :wink:

My personal experience encourages me to say, that smaller mushrooms are more potent than bigger ones.
I actually started a little experiment on this and although I can't really exclude the power of psychosomatic medicine, I had way better results, on the same amounts of mushrooms, but with younger specimens.
I do this experiment using Psilocybe Cyanescens (that don't really have a visible veil, so it's even harder to tell, if it's this point, when the amounts of active ingredients stop to develop, while the fruit still grows in size.).
Anyway, I used all small fruits and on the other hands bigger and
the effects were quiet different.
I changed every trip (for the last 6 by now), and every time, the smaller ones, gave me a stronger AND better trip. So it really seems to matter.

While writing this, I think it would be good idea, to ask my tripping buddy if he'd mix up two bags of grounded fruits, one with old fruits and one with young ones.
He gives me one bag, without me knowing which one it was.
I trip, and try to tell how the trip was. Two weeks later I take the other bag and trip again, again trying to describe my trip.
Maybe I do this about three times (so six trips in twelve weeks all in all).
Although I won't be able to tell what's better for SURE, I bet it would be interesting to see the results.
A very important factor is the mind set, so the results WILL be very, but that's a factor I can't affect.

It's gonna be a tough thing, for I think tripping that often isn't the best idea, but as long as I think I can handle it, I'll stick to it.

As most of you may know, it's said, that psychedelic mushrooms produce active alkaloids up to the point when their veil opens.
I don't know for sure, if this is really the point, but it seems to be somewhere around it and since I don't have the possibility to check this out chemically, I think the above mentioned method would be at least a small contribution to this question.

It might be stupid idea, but I think I do it anyway. :shrug:


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: Fahkface]
    #8037952 - 02/18/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

even if it does get .001 weaker at maturity who cares.
It weighs twice as much


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Re: Last Question About Potency [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #8038568 - 02/18/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

poo straw mix.... forgot to put that in there


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