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JTB22
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People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics
#8033904 - 02/17/08 07:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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1. Possibility of getting flashbacks 2. Possibility of having latent schizophrenia brought out
These are legitamite concerns; does anyone have any research that puts things in perspective?
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awesomebastard
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: JTB22]
#8033939 - 02/17/08 08:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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They are both real concerns man I have expeiernced one of them already.
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: awesomebastard]
#8034007 - 02/17/08 08:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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flashbacks are exaggerated, when I have them they're at best a nice change of pace for the day and at worst a mild annoyance. as far as schizophrenia i dont know man, but I'm no schizo myself.
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THEBats
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: doitagain]
#8034030 - 02/17/08 09:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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unless you have history of schizophrenia in your family and are mentally stable you have nothing to worry about. flashbacks for the most part are exaggerations however that's not to say some don't experience severe panic attacks.
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Chronic7

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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: THEBats]
#8034108 - 02/17/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Moderation is the key, you can abuse water too much and die!
You dont see them reporting that every week in the tabloids do you?
If you ate lots of shrooms everyday, some would go nuts. If you smoke a q of weed everyday, some might go scitzo.
Some have a high tolerance and handle it fine, some become lazy layabouts with no motivation. Some dont.
It can cause these things but only if you let it, people that try weed/shrooms & it doesn't agree with them try it once and then dont do it again! I meet people liek this all the time, they sensibly dont touch the stuff.
Learn to read your body?
Ive had mood swings/paranoia etc from weed but i was abusing it, and tbh i still abuse it (i consider every day abuse) and i get flashbacks in the form of eyes losing focus every now and then, but again, from abuse (tripping more than once a month)
Right now im trying to live by 2 golden rules:
Meditation & Moderation
I heard this ridiculous story about a "flashback" t'other day, this girl was walking through a supermarket with like 20 E pills on her, then she thought the police were after her and started throwing pills in peoples faces in the supermarket, how fucking ridiculous isit to asume shrooms caused this? (just because she'd done lots of shrooms in the past)
However from some trip reports some people act like complete idiots when they trip, that i dont understand at all, they must be very ego based people who just flip out, i know everytime i come up on shrooms my ego is fighting (i feel my mind and body fighting each other) but i just cool out and breathe.
Then the clear light shines through
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rushofblood
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: Chronic7]
#8034447 - 02/17/08 12:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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neither seem particularly abnormal to me in the first place
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anyone420
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: rushofblood]
#8034598 - 02/17/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd probably be crazier if forced into total abstinence of all drugs.
To think that, because a bunch of people wrote down some stuff on a paper and signed it, i can't do what i want with my own body is simply madness in my mind.
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: anyone420]
#8034693 - 02/17/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've tripped acid 9 times, mushrooms 4, mescaline 2, 2c-b 4, MDMA/MDA 4, and I've never had a flashback. I've never met someone in person who had.
Now, my ordinary perception can be trippier and I can get into some spacey states of mind and I sometimes see things breathing or little trails but it doesn't interfere and I kind of enjoy it.
Latent schizophrenia is just that. The percentage of people who become schizophrenic after using psychedelics is about the same as the number of schizophrenics in the general population. It is a risk if it runs in your family or you already have some symptoms, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it.
I think if used carefully psychedelics can be psychologically safe. It's not Russian Rouletter with your mind, the hazards can be avoided by a reasonable amount of self-knowledge, precaution, set and setting.
I'd say weed may be more likely to trigger mental illness in people, and once again the key is moderation and having common sense.
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: Divided_Sky]
#8034716 - 02/17/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Look at alcohol and tobacco. They're legal and they've had a tremendously negative impact on society.Why would we want to legalize other substances that are clearly harmful to individuals?"
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: Coaster]
#8034825 - 02/17/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ive had 2 flashbacks, the first time was a week after a strong LSA experience.
I couldnt control my thoughts very well and thought i was going mad, then after getting back to my friends place i chilled out and really enjoyed it. The second time i just thought "ahh nice and chill"
Its not like you jump back in time and you experience the same things you did, just some people can have panic attacks.
I dont really mind people who disregard drugs, fair enough they can do what they want, my experiences are my own, and i entered into them on my own terms, i didnt harm anyone and I was responsible when i was on the drugs ive taken. Thats why i think some drugs should be decriminalized, especially cannabis.
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Re: People against drugs say the same old stuff about weed and psychedelics [Re: blacksun]
#8034883 - 02/17/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well i've got plenty of flashbacks after being chronic-smoker for over 2 years... i was smiply getting heavily stoned out of a blue while i wasnt smoking at the time... but i always considered it a wee bonus from sweet maryjane. i dont smoke that much anymore simply coz i dont it doesnt grow around me anymore and somehow i dont fancy hunting for dealers. and schizo?? look at the politicians hehe
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