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Wolfgang

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cakes were in fridge only three days
#8033391 - 02/17/08 12:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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and then added to manure at a ratio of 1:5 just like all my other trays. The cakes that were in the fridge are growing at a much slower rate than the other cakes.
I read plenty of threads before I put it in the fridge and MANY people including some of the old hands have left cakes in the fridge for months and had decent results. What gives?
Edit: Just compare.
Cakes that were in fridge.

Regular Cakes
Edited by Wolfgang (02/17/08 02:31 AM)
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Wolfgang]
#8033635 - 02/17/08 03:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is that supposed to be pure substrate that was inoculated with spawn? If so, it's OK, though I don't really know what the light brown stuff in the first pic is. What confuses me, is the fact that I also see dark brown spots in the pic. What technique did you use??
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Fahkface]
#8033638 - 02/17/08 03:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i really don't have any input, but that really is a huge difference.
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Wolfgang

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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Fahkface]
#8033646 - 02/17/08 03:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fahkface said: Is that supposed to be pure substrate that was inoculated with spawn?
What do you mean by pure substrate? I added crumbled brf cakes to 90% manure and 10% vermiculite, these are about 12 days later.
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Fahkface said:If so, it's OK, though I don't really know what the light brown stuff in the first pic is. What confuses me, is the fact that I also see dark brown spots in the pic. What technique did you use??
I think the light brown stuff is just weaker mycelium that doesn't turn the substrate completely white (at first) like the second tray does.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033648 - 02/17/08 03:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh, what I forgot: Cakes should be dunked to maximum of 48 hours. After this period they often don't produce any fruits at all! 24 hours of dunking is the way to go!
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Fahkface]
#8033660 - 02/17/08 03:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've never done this before, so please excuse my ignorance, but aren't you supposed to case the top of the mycelium? or was this before you cased it?
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033663 - 02/17/08 03:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I haven't cased yet, you're suppose to wait until it's completely colonized before casing.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033668 - 02/17/08 03:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's why I asked about if it's pure substrate (so not a cased one). If it's a cased one, I would worry about the light brown stuff in the first pic, and rip off the overlay from the second one with a fork. If it's pure substrate, that's gonna be caksed very soon, it's OK, though (from what I see)
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Fahkface]
#8033676 - 02/17/08 03:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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is there poo mix on the bottom of the mycelium? that is one thing i could never find out when i read about casing like this.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033680 - 02/17/08 03:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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bmiles said: is there poo mix on the bottom of the mycelium? that is one thing i could never find out when i read about casing like this.
If I'm misunderstanding your question I apologize in advance but the substrate should be close to 100% colonized that includes the bottom and the middle. So I don't think there will be any "poo mix" at the bottom, at least not much.
and you do realize this is not a casing at this point right?
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Wolfgang]
#8033700 - 02/17/08 04:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, i realize that you aren't casing yet. i just don't understand if you simply put the mycelium in the bottom of the pan with nothing under it at all, or if you put some casing under it? sorry if i'm hijacking your thread.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033708 - 02/17/08 04:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not necessary to put a casing layer below the substrate, at least I never do.
Also some people do a layer of substrate, a layer of spawn, a layer of substrate, a layer of spawn ect and for grains that's fine you could actually damage the grains if you were to mix it too rough but with cakes it's fine to thoroughly mix it all together. It allows it to colonize quicker imo.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Wolfgang]
#8033711 - 02/17/08 04:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks for the info man, and good luck. i'll keep an eye on this, i want to see how it turns out.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033716 - 02/17/08 04:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey no problem anytime. 
I have a total of 8 trays right now almost all at 100% colonization this looks like it's going to be a great grow.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Wolfgang]
#8033724 - 02/17/08 04:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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just curious, how many cakes per tray?
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033728 - 02/17/08 04:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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1 quarts worth.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: Wolfgang]
#8033733 - 02/17/08 04:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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not bad time to take the jars out of the 'pc' and pass the fuck out. laterz
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: bmiles]
#8033751 - 02/17/08 05:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks like brown mold, or maybe just a poor substrain.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: HybridprX]
#8033754 - 02/17/08 05:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's definitely not mold and I used spore inoculation for this grow so there are dozens, sometimes hundreds of different sub-strains. The chance that there'd be next to no rizomorphic growth in all those sub-strains would be low imo.
It'd be a huge coincidence that the one cake I put in the fridge performed poorly due to poor genetics, when all my other trays did fine when they weren't put in the fridge.
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Re: cakes were in fridge only three days [Re: HybridprX]
#8033952 - 02/17/08 08:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
HybridprX said: Looks like brown mold, or maybe just a poor substrain.
First pic casing has not colonized all the way not mold.
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