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OfflineKombat Frank
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8035358 - 02/17/08 08:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I guess I have more exposure to it since I run sound for so many benefits.
and I can understand someone getting up and giving a survivor speech at a cancer benefit, but im not kidding, these people will get up and do speeches at habitat for humanity benefits.

most of these people end up being killed by cancer anyway, because it never fully went away.... so it is a misnomer on that point.




i deff. agree with you on that...people "overdoing" it with their cancer survival stories

it just sounds to me like you have had to many run ins with too many dip shits

oh wells


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8035584 - 02/17/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Cancer is known for killing those who are unenthusiastic for life while sparing those who cling to it.




Not true according to large-scale controlled statistical medical reports. Do you just fabricate stuff to back your position?


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8035628 - 02/17/08 09:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I base my statements on my personal experiences, generally. Stories I've heard provide those experiences here. Individual stories obviously have no empirical strength. Maybe the stories I've heard were just the ones that stood out? Those are the ones that usually get told, after all.

Anyway, no need to make it personal. If you can prove me wrong then do so. I'd like to see those studies.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8035640 - 02/17/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I did a similar thread as this a few years back. I was commenting on how the media ALWAYS speaks of the good 'fight'.

"Reagan bravely fought Alzheimer's disease right up until the end."

Not sure how one puts up the good fight. By controlling your drooling? By trying to remember?

FYI, I am NOT mocking any one who has or whose family has such a disease. Am only saying that one has very little control in such a situation.

I am currently 'fighting' a nasty-ass flu (and losing so far). What is my battle plan? I sleep most of the day and eat lots of oranges. Can you feel my bravery?


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8036978 - 02/18/08 08:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I did a similar thread as this a few years back. I was commenting on how the media ALWAYS speaks of the good 'fight'.

"Reagan bravely fought Alzheimer's disease right up until the end."

Not sure how one puts up the good fight. By controlling your drooling? By trying to remember?

FYI, I am NOT mocking any one who has or whose family has such a disease. Am only saying that one has very little control in such a situation.

I am currently 'fighting' a nasty-ass flu (and losing so far). What is my battle plan? I sleep most of the day and eat lots of oranges. Can you feel my bravery?




its the inside of your body thats doing all the work and fighting


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Kombat Frank]
    #8036988 - 02/18/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How does this answer his questions?


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Kombat Frank]
    #8038135 - 02/18/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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its the inside of your body thats doing all the work and fighting




Of course. As everyone's body does the same as best it can, it is not valiant nor brave; it just is. No commendations nor medals are to be handed out.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8038164 - 02/18/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

...I'd STILL like to see those reports.

Regardless, I think YawningAnus's real problem isn't with cancer survivors but with smallminded people who use a brush with cancer to prop up their egos.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8038188 - 02/18/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No.
YOU have to present those reports which say that those with a positive attitude have more chances of surviving.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8038236 - 02/18/08 02:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have covered this many times before with links. You made the erroneous claim and I am supposed to do the research for you and for every other poster time and time again?

No! That is not how it works. It is up to you to back up your position.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8038240 - 02/18/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:shrug:


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #8038242 - 02/18/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you, MT. It is so refreshing to see that someone else understands how the game is played. :bow:


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8038250 - 02/18/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not concerned with winning "the game," I am concerned with learning.

You are not making it easy.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8038258 - 02/18/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have been spoon-feeding posters here for eight years. There is a search function here and are at least 3-5 threads that contain relevant information. I will not live long enough to keep re-presenting the information over and over again to every new poster. That is why the archives exist.

Then there is the Google search engine and the Yahoo search engine and ...


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8038260 - 02/18/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Should be easy, given the paucity of results returned for "cancer survival."

Oh wait.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8038285 - 02/18/08 02:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You're right. I am the only one with the mental capacity to do the research. :rolleyes:


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8038312 - 02/18/08 02:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just spent five minutes going through search results and found only one that was remotely pertinent: a post entitled "Study Says No Power of Will over Death." Sounds promising right?

This is an article (posted here, a while ago) stating that Christmas does not fight cancer.

I'm already willing to believe that your argument is correct, but you really just don't want to work with me here.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8038339 - 02/18/08 02:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I tried 'positive thinking and cancer survival' on Yahoo and the first 10 reports are all what you are looking for. I am certain you will get similar results for 'postive thinking and heart attacks'.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8038347 - 02/18/08 02:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you. This is what I am looking for and it affirms your position.


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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8038545 - 02/18/08 03:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you come to realise that I am always right, it will save a lot of time. Arrogant, but true. :cool:


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