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I despise the term "survivor"
#8032611 - 02/16/08 08:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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when used for things like cancer.
"oh, you didnt know? she is a cancer survivor".
they always make speeches about how strong they were to overcome it... beyond laying there for operations and chemo, what did you do? not kill yourself? it also seems like it is saying you are better than all those other fucks out there that died from it.
I have decided that I am going to refer to myself as a ________ survivor for every tiny scratch I get. I am a thorn survivor. I am a Flu survivor. I am a root canal survivor. I am a rip tide survivor.
if you are alive... arent you a survivor? I survived breakfast this morning.
now, I will give credit to things like "Holocaust Survivor"... because that was some intense shit. you really survived. I bet holocaust survivors would have preferred the cushy cancer ward over hiding neck deep in feces any day.
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
#8032628 - 02/16/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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heh...
cancer is some "intense shit" too. I'd like to see how "cushy" you think cancer is when you're receiving chemotherapy, or staring death in the face.
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Plok]
#8032635 - 02/16/08 08:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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my avatar is a Fist survivor. it was some intense shit that happened there.
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
#8032661 - 02/16/08 08:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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question
have you ever had cancer or had to go through chemo or anything of the sort??
have you ever even met anyone going through something like that?
almost knowing your going to die, having to go through all those surgies and basically live in a hospital un able to do things you actually want to do. And while you CANT do those thins you want to do, you have to sit and think about how you might die, therefore not being able to EVER do those things again
i understand what you are saying, buuut, honestly they can call themselves whatever they want, it does not effect me at all
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Kombat Frank]
#8032678 - 02/16/08 08:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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that reminds me.... another thing I despise is when people think you cant despise something since you havent experienced it firsthand.
have you ever eaten a turd? have you ever squished it through your teeth? then how can you be disgusted at 2girls1cup?
i had two grandparents die from cancer... and they never felt the need to tell people they were survivors and make speeches about how through personal hardships with cancer they are now fit to make hallmark commercials.
Im really starting to cheer for cancer so more "survivors" arent around.
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
#8032683 - 02/16/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i had two grandparents die from cancer... and they never felt the need to tell people they were survivors
Well of course they wouldn't say that, would they?
I, myself, am a Houston rush-hour traffic survivor (daily).
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
#8032689 - 02/16/08 09:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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YawningAnus said: that reminds me.... another thing I despise is when people think you cant despise something since you havent experienced it firsthand.
have you ever eaten a turd? have you ever squished it through your teeth? then how can you be disgusted at 2girls1cup?
i had two grandparents die from cancer... and they never felt the need to tell people they were survivors and make speeches about how through personal hardships with cancer they are now fit to make hallmark commercials.
Im really starting to cheer for cancer so more "survivors" arent around.
good point
but how can you talk about how people feel when they go through some experience when you havnt gone through it yourself, so you dont actually know how it feels.
comparing that to eating shit is wild, 2 COMPLETELY different things
sorry about your grandparents, but wishing death upon anyone is a no no for me
like biggie said "that shit will come back on you"
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Kombat Frank]
#8032703 - 02/16/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guarantee you if I get cancer and beat it I wont be acting like I overcame great adversity. I cant think of any other illness where people talk about how they are survivors the way cancer people do.
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
#8032810 - 02/16/08 09:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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YawningAnus said: when used for things like cancer.
"oh, you didnt know? she is a cancer survivor".
they always make speeches about how strong they were to overcome it... beyond laying there for operations and chemo, what did you do? not kill yourself? it also seems like it is saying you are better than all those other fucks out there that died from it.
I have decided that I am going to refer to myself as a ________ survivor for every tiny scratch I get. I am a thorn survivor. I am a Flu survivor. I am a root canal survivor. I am a rip tide survivor.
if you are alive... arent you a survivor? I survived breakfast this morning.
now, I will give credit to things like "Holocaust Survivor"... because that was some intense shit. you really survived. I bet holocaust survivors would have preferred the cushy cancer ward over hiding neck deep in feces any day.
people say these things because we are above/outside of nature, remember? we are man, the mighty human, not some mere animal. 
kind of like all the recent tornado coverage (even if you don't watch the news, i doubt you didn't hear about it). these people lived (or didn't) through an event that has occurred for millions of years and has taken millions of lives (plant and animal)
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if you are alive... arent you a survivor?
yep. some people, i guess, feel the need to reinforce their insecurities about death/life in this manner
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Kombat Frank said: like biggie said "that shit will come back on you"
please, no, tell me you didn't actually type that
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: demiu5]
#8033260 - 02/17/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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To survive cancer often takes a victory of the will, or spirit. Cancer is known for killing those who are unenthusiastic for life while sparing those who cling to it. There are exceptions on both sides, of course, but it is a dire oversimplification to say that recovery from cancer depends only on the quality of treatment available. Survival goes deeper than having a doctor fix you up.
Besides which, cancer treatment is pretty fucking hellish sometimes. I understand your original point, but I disagree with it pretty heartily.
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I think if I was injected with toxic substances and lived through it I would call myself a survivor.
If I was exposed to radical amounts of radiation and not only lived but became healthier, I'd brag about it to everyone too.
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Cancer is known for killing those who are unenthusiastic for life while sparing those who cling to it.
Is it really? According to whom?
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Veritas]
#8034049 - 02/17/08 09:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8034053 - 02/17/08 09:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, I would expect that there would be some difference in survival rates between those who want to live enough to radically change their lifestyle after a diagnosis of cancer, and those who passively undergo surgery & chemo without making other changes. But this is cannot be oversimplified as being about "lack of enthusiasm" vs. "clinging to life."
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: Veritas]
#8034107 - 02/17/08 09:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes this is different and makes sense. But I heard this theory before. Many people are inclined to believe in it because it sounds convenient. When we're sick we already feel vulnerable, and if the environment is constructed in such a way to facilitate believing in this, we will. Lack of instruction, fear, relatives and friends who think they help by telling the ill that they can "make it" solely by believing... these can have a huge impact on someone in that condition.
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
#8034195 - 02/17/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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YawningAnus said: I have decided that I am going to refer to myself as a ________ survivor for every tiny scratch I get. I am a thorn survivor. I am a Flu survivor. I am a root canal survivor. I am a rip tide survivor.

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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: deranger]
#8035044 - 02/17/08 02:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's a struggle. That's all I'm saying. This cannot be denied.
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well everything is a struggle.
another thing is that these survivors never tell you what kind of cancer they had. it reminds me of that curb your enthusiasm episode where the rabbi gets angry at Larry for not being more sympathetic about his brother that died on 9/11... then it comes to light that he wasnt even in the WTC towers, he died of something entirely unrelated just on the same day.
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Re: I despise the term "survivor" [Re: SneezingPenis]
#8035059 - 02/17/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Who exactly are all "these survivors"? My experiences don't really vibe with yours.
I'll agree that somebody who had some mild form of skin cancer and quickly had it removed without incident does not qualify as a "survivor," though I suppose they may use the term. I don't know anyone like that, though. My mom had something like that once and she certainly doesn't call herself a cancer survivor.
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I guess I have more exposure to it since I run sound for so many benefits. and I can understand someone getting up and giving a survivor speech at a cancer benefit, but im not kidding, these people will get up and do speeches at habitat for humanity benefits.
most of these people end up being killed by cancer anyway, because it never fully went away.... so it is a misnomer on that point.
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