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    #8031335 - 02/16/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hi. I have gotten into some trouble recently and because of it have to take weekly drug test for a year. I have read that klip is closest to pot there is. I am looking into ethnobotainicals for relaxation until I serve my sentence. I will be rigrously drug tested each week in drug court and am seeking other means. I am even being tested for psylocibin so thats out. Which ethnos I should check into?

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Re: turning to ethnos [Re: katfish]
    #8031364 - 02/16/08 02:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

First you might want to look into spelling these words correctly first.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: entheoman1]
    #8031372 - 02/16/08 02:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i dont think it would matter if they tested you for psilocybin because its only in your system for a few hours...


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Re: turning to ethnos [Re: katfish]
    #8031439 - 02/16/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

There is no substitute for marijuana.If you are looking for one you are not gonna find it in klip or wild dagga,intoxicating mint or any other entheogen.

There are many interesting entheogenic plants,they all have their own characteristics.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: wortiesbo]
    #8031443 - 02/16/08 03:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

entheoman1: Spelling? sorry, gimmie a break I have never been a good speller. I could look them up and edit the post if you like. :smile:



wortie: I have read on these boards that it stays in your system for 48 hours or more. I really need to know the facts about this. I am not going to risk anything failing these drug tests, its just not worth it.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: katfish]
    #8031458 - 02/16/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i had a feeling that pot is king, but if I could substitute something for my 10 years of use maybe I could still be at peace instead of being a complete asshole for a year. :smile: maybe I am going out on a limb here, but I just don't know what ethnos are out there and how powerful they are. I am interested in cacti but I think drug court tests for sure test for mescaline. :frown:

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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: katfish]
    #8031488 - 02/16/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well the way you describe it,sounds like kava kava would help you.
It affects the GABA receptors in the brain so it has an anti anxiety and sedative affect.

Fijian kava kava or 'awa as it is called where I am located is suppose to be the best,though I have only had vanuatu and hawaiian.A lot of people think hawaiian 'awa is very low quality.This is usually the case when ordering commercially produced kava grown on large farms.But if you ask any of the kava enthusiasts here in hawaii,they will tell you that they think hawaiian kava kava is the best.


For the quality and price,I enjoy vanuatu kava kava.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #8031523 - 02/16/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

eat cacti...


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #8031586 - 02/16/08 03:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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aNeway2sayHooray said:
Well the way you describe it,sounds like kava kava would help you.
It affects the GABA receptors in the brain so it has an anti anxiety and sedative affect.

Fijian kava kava or 'awa as it is called where I am located is suppose to be the best,though I have only had vanuatu and hawaiian.A lot of people think hawaiian 'awa is very low quality.This is usually the case when ordering commercially produced kava grown on large farms.But if you ask any of the kava enthusiasts here in hawaii,they will tell you that they think hawaiian kava kava is the best.


For the quality and price,I enjoy vanuatu kava kava.




Kava Kava is a very mellow, soothing experience. Definitely not really a high, id almost compare it to a mild opiate-like experience. But ive only used extract.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8031633 - 02/16/08 04:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I am gonna definitly check out kava kava.

as far as cacti, I thought this could be tested with drug tests because of mescaline content. I will be in the drug court program which is so hardass they test for tylenol and even alcohol based mouthwash. sucks!

kaT


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: katfish]
    #8031687 - 02/16/08 04:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've had several friends on probation. They won't test you for mescaline or psilocin unless they have very specific reason. They're not very common, and they're not habitually used, so they are of less concern. They will test for the NIDA 5 which is THC, Amphetamines, Opiates, Cocaine and PCP. Amphetamines will cover mdma and methamphetamine. I'm not sure why PCP is included. The weekly test is a panel. They put urine on them, and they react within a minute or so. These panels can contain up to five tests. Some of them have less than five. I'm not sure if they always use the one with five for probation.

In regards to enthos, Leonurus sibiricus (marijuanilla) is probably better than klip dagga in terms of what you might be looking for. Some will contest this too, but california poppy is another one worth investigating. Sopia resin is also cool..and i've heard a lot of people say good things about spice. ANewWay is right that none of these are all herbs of their own nature. Usually people intending to use them as a legal pot are dissapointed. But if you approach them as what they are they can be enjoyable and relaxing.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: blazed123]
    #8031995 - 02/16/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sweet. thanks for the info.

i will be being tested for psilocibin because it was one of my possession charges.

kaT


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: katfish]
    #8032467 - 02/16/08 07:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what is klip?
and go for thujone. its an essential oil in wormwood and it will give you the closest thing to a pot buzz your gonna find. i think they just call it wormood extract online, or you could extract it yourself from wormwood leaves. either way its pretty cheap/cheap as fuck.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: AtticusProphet]
    #8032837 - 02/16/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do you know how much it would cost to conduct a proper psilocybin metabolite test?


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: Knoa6]
    #8033311 - 02/17/08 12:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, not to much. It's an easy test and done regularly on drug screenings. One fast GC/MS and you're done.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8033318 - 02/17/08 12:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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aNeway2sayHooray said:
Well the way you describe it,sounds like kava kava would help you.
It affects the GABA receptors in the brain so it has an anti anxiety and sedative affect.

Fijian kava kava or 'awa as it is called where I am located is suppose to be the best,though I have only had vanuatu and hawaiian.A lot of people think hawaiian 'awa is very low quality.This is usually the case when ordering commercially produced kava grown on large farms.But if you ask any of the kava enthusiasts here in hawaii,they will tell you that they think hawaiian kava kava is the best.


For the quality and price,I enjoy vanuatu kava kava.




Kava Kava is a very mellow, soothing experience. Definitely not really a high, id almost compare it to a mild opiate-like experience. But ive only used extract.




I didnt mean they had the same effects.The way he said he is angry when he has no weed made me think he might like something with anti anxiety attributes.








And as for the poster who said try wormwood essential oil because it has a "pot like buzz",they are wrong and I hope the OP doesnt take his advice.Essential oil of wormwood can be dangerous if the dosage is not right.


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #8034231 - 02/17/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

thujone is toxic, and not a great high. theres a lot of great ethnos, but none like pot...there is a reason why pot is so popular...


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Re: turning to Ethan's [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #8034258 - 02/17/08 10:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
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aNeway2sayHooray said:
Well the way you describe it,sounds like kava kava would help you.
It affects the GABA receptors in the brain so it has an anti anxiety and sedative affect.

Fijian kava kava or 'awa as it is called where I am located is suppose to be the best,though I have only had vanuatu and hawaiian.A lot of people think hawaiian 'awa is very low quality.This is usually the case when ordering commercially produced kava grown on large farms.But if you ask any of the kava enthusiasts here in hawaii,they will tell you that they think hawaiian kava kava is the best.


For the quality and price,I enjoy vanuatu kava kava.




Kava Kava is a very mellow, soothing experience. Definitely not really a high, id almost compare it to a mild opiate-like experience. But ive only used extract.




I didnt mean they had the same effects.The way he said he is angry when he has no weed made me think he might like something with anti anxiety attributes.

And as for the poster who said try wormwood essential oil because it has a "pot like buzz",they are wrong and I hope the OP doesnt take his advice.Essential oil of wormwood can be dangerous if the dosage is not right.




I was agreeing with you, then putting my two pennies in about my experience with Kava Kava. It was very pleasant.


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