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slow going grain jar
    #8030486 - 02/16/08 08:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i have 1 out of 5 blue meanie rye jars that is alot slower than the others. im talking very slow. like old people screwing.

i just so happen to have some bm lc. can i blast a few cc's of the lc in there to getit going or will that mess up the water content and screw everything up? they were originally innoc'd with a sporesyringe.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: blood4blood]
    #8030493 - 02/16/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if they are growing slow in the jars like that, then the moisture content is already off... when you boil/pc you want to cover the tops of the jars with aluminum foil to stop more moisture from getting in the jars, and you want to prep the jars right in the first place... just let them grow.. it may take longer, but they should keep growing.. if not, start over..


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8030502 - 02/16/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

these were all from the same batch. and yes i did cover the tops with foil while i pc'd.

i think im going to do it anyways for an expierment.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: blood4blood]
    #8030510 - 02/16/08 09:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah.. just let them do their thing.. you may have got the moisture a lil off in some of the jars when you prepped them? a good rule of thumb is 1/4 cup brf, 1/2 cup vermiculite, 1/4 cup water... that should work good... just mix the brf and the verm together before you add the water... that just how I do it though...


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8030742 - 02/16/08 10:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

they're rye jars


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: blood4blood]
    #8030753 - 02/16/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

haha.. my bad... still a moisture issue.. let them strain a lil longer to get rid of that extra moisture...


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8031298 - 02/16/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

there is no extra moisture. they've been sittling colonizing for about 5 or so days now.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: blood4blood]
    #8031434 - 02/16/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I am totally having the same problem. I covered with foil, pc'd for like 100 minutes, let them cool over night then inoculated them the next day with a spore syringe. It's been 3 days, and no growth... I wonder if there isn't enough moisture? I think I am just gonna stick with BRF, or maybe try dark rye flour next time. :/


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: misos]
    #8031557 - 02/16/08 03:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

your not really in the same boat. its only been three days for you. and see i have four jars that are doing great. colonizing faster than shit. its just the one in question that is colonizing super slow.

so i went ahead and blasted approx. 6 cc's of Blue meanie lc into the jar and we'll see what happens in the next couple of days.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: blood4blood]
    #8031630 - 02/16/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm. My bad. 6 CCs. If that doesn't do it, I don't think anything will. Good luck.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: misos]
    #8031690 - 02/16/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Blue meanies are fairly quick colonizers, they produce more linear mycelium on a more regular basis then other strains I've seen, takes quite abit of work to get a nice rhizomorph isolate out of them but the beauty of blue meanies is that they do best while colonizing in temperatures between 54f-62f they are a cold strain.

Chances are your incubating them to warm and they're near thermo death like so many of us have done in the past.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: HybridprX]
    #8032132 - 02/16/08 06:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

for real? to warm? i know they are a cold strain. they're incubating around 70. ill move them somewhere a but more chilled.

were both talking about the cube blue meanie right?


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: blood4blood]
    #8032386 - 02/16/08 07:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hybridx I believe is talking about Psilocybe cyanescens. which is a cold weather, wood-loving species which also grows well on rye grain.

Blood4Blood is talking about panaeolus cyanescens. they grow from cow shit right next to psilocybe cubensis. this is a warm weather species.

I believe he is talking about panaeolus cyanescens because these are more common than ps. cyanescens syringes and also more commonly referred to as "Blue Meanies"
if you used a pan. cyan syringe you DO NOT want to put them in cold conditions. the grain will freeze.

I also believe you have panaeolus cyanescens because it would explain why your spawn is growing slow possibly. pan cyans usually spawn around 80-86 degree. any colder could be causing this slowing.

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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #8032485 - 02/16/08 07:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No, I'm talking about blue meanies.

They prefer colder temperatures. Believe me, I thermo death ed more BM jars then I had colonized in my first year. lol

Ask RR or a old timer to chime in about the Blue meanie strain.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: HybridprX]
    #8032529 - 02/16/08 08:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I know what youre talking about. im not aruging about what youve presented but I dont think these are the same blue meanies hes referring to. hes thinking of the blue meanies that grow in pasturelands next to cubes. aka, copes, pan cyans, blue meanies, theyve got a lot of names.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #8032696 - 02/16/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

He's talking about regular old, goddamned, cubensis mushrooms. Cubes. There is so much bad information in this thread, I'm not even going to try to clear it up.

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for real? to warm? i know they are a cold strain. they're incubating around 70. ill move them somewhere a but more chilled.

were both talking about the cube blue meanie right?




Read the posts people.

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Ask RR or a old timer to chime in about the Blue meanie strain.




He'll tell you that a cube is a cube, and all that strain talk is marketing driven crap. Don't believe me? Hear it from the Rabbit's mouth.

Blood4... Just let it colonize like the other one's did. No need to move them, as the other four jars excelled in those conditions. Who even fucking knows. Really. Could be that that was the last jar you knocked up, and the majority of spores or LC or whatever got shot into the other jars. Could be that Jesus hates that jar, and He's punishing it. I can surely tell you what it isn't... It's not the temperature. It's not the water content. It's not the strain. It's not the species. You already knocked it up with six more cc's of LC. Watch that fucker go off. Good Luck.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: blood4blood]
    #8032697 - 02/16/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like bacteria. Check for wet spot. Shake and see if there's sludge.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: thedefone]
    #8033263 - 02/17/08 12:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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thedefone said: You already knocked it up with six more cc's of LC. Watch that fucker go off. Good Luck.




thats what i was waitong to hear, jus a bad jar that didnt want to colonize and now its going to blast off with lc.

but yea it is/was knocked up with the cube strain blue meanie.


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Re: slow going grain jar [Re: Rose]
    #8033270 - 02/17/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
Sounds like bacteria. Check for wet spot. Shake and see if there's sludge.




nope, no sludge. my jars look dry and tumbly. i think it a case of what the def one said that it was my last jar and i ran out of spores.


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