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InvisibleChronic7

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    #8030380 - 02/16/08 08:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To me just seems contradictory, its called Philosophy & Spirituality, when philosophy is based within theory, and spirituality is based in faith?

Sure its great to philosophise about spirituality but i get the vibe that whenever anyone makes a spiritual post here its gets jumped on by philosophers, which isnt exactly a bad thing but the root of spirituality simply can not be philosophised.

As words cannot induce true faith only experience, and philosophy is just words.

Just a thought...

Please flame me for this, i invite you :smile:

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InvisibleChronic7

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Re: This forums name... [Re: Chronic7]
    #8030443 - 02/16/08 08:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just bothered to read the forums descriptions, i apologize!


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Chronic7]
    #8030564 - 02/16/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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chronic777 said:
To me just seems contradictory, its called Philosophy & Spirituality, when philosophy is based within theory, and spirituality is based in faith?

Sure its great to philosophize about spirituality but i get the vibe that whenever anyone makes a spiritual post here its gets jumped on by philosophers, which isnt exactly a bad thing but the root of spirituality simply can not be philosophised.

As words cannot induce true faith only experience, and philosophy is just words.

Just a thought...

Please flame me for this, i invite you :smile:

:peace:




Finally you say something I agree with:lol: I'll save the flaming for some other post I'm sure you will make soon.:lol: Yeah dump that spirituality non-sense and let's philosophize baby!:rofl2:


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Icelander]
    #8031021 - 02/16/08 12:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I like a spiritual name being there. It leaves the door open for some interesting angles to explore. If this whole forum was classical philosophy we would be discussing formal logic which is boring. I would have to go elsewhere.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8031028 - 02/16/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I would have to go elsewhere.


The Mystery forum?:whoa: Hue I'm shocked.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: This forums name... [Re: Icelander]
    #8031034 - 02/16/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do you really want to sit around talking about Plato, Kant, Socrates and the like? They had something going on, but that old school...and boring.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8031043 - 02/16/08 12:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I want to talk about handguns.:hissyfit:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: This forums name... [Re: Icelander]
    #8031080 - 02/16/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Does the shroomery have weapons forum? It needs one.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Chronic7]
    #8031211 - 02/16/08 01:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

One branch of philosophy is Metaphysics, which in part attempts to understand the nature of spirituality.


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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Re: This forums name... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8032924 - 02/16/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Does the shroomery have weapons forum? It needs one.




Psychedelics and weapons go well together. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: This forums name... [Re: Icelander]
    #8032935 - 02/16/08 10:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've got a great Hello Kitty pipe bomb tek. For the destruction of property, not persons.



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Re: This forums name... [Re: Chronic7]
    #8033281 - 02/17/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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chronic777 said:
To me just seems contradictory, its called Philosophy & Spirituality, when philosophy is based within theory, and spirituality is based in faith?




The yin and the yang are contradictory, yet fit together perfectly....  :thumbup:
Technically, spirituality is also based in theory.... 
A person has to take a leap of faith to believe in that spiritual theory....    :wink:


>^;;^<


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Re: This forums name... [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8033612 - 02/17/08 02:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Spirituality doesn't necessarily have to based on pure faith. Philosophy isn't just words either. Spirituality is a very real need of human beings. I think the two are definitely intertwined. They're nearly the same thing at times.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: the universe]
    #8033820 - 02/17/08 06:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Spirituality is the experience of life and Philosophy is the means in which we seek to understand that experience conceptually.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: fireworks_god]
    #8033841 - 02/17/08 07:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The fundamentals of spirituality are based in faith, as once you have experienced (which can NOT be prooved) the true reality of spirituality, the source, "god" all there is left is faith in what you have experienced (as it cant be prooved)

& those who do not experience due to attachment/fear can only have faith, or lack there of :smile:

So experience has alot tod o with it, but there still has to be faith in the experience to BE it.

Thats my view onit.

This forum is fine though :smile:


ps psychedelics & weapons?

What a future we could have blowing up the universe...


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Diploid]
    #8034203 - 02/17/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Diploid said:
One branch of philosophy is Metaphysics, which in part attempts to understand the nature of spirituality.




Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Spirituality is the experience of life and Philosophy is the means in which we seek to understand that experience conceptually.




does spirituality have to be talked about through something?

me thinks spirituality is best talked talked about through oneself.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Icelander]
    #8034209 - 02/17/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
Does the shroomery have weapons forum? It needs one.




Psychedelics and weapons go well together. :thumbup:




ever strap explosives to yourself, go boom and survive?

psychedelics ARE weapons of MASS destruction! :hotidea:


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Re: This forums name... [Re: deranger]
    #8034236 - 02/17/08 10:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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SyntheticMInd said:
Quote:

Diploid said:
One branch of philosophy is Metaphysics, which in part attempts to understand the nature of spirituality.




Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Spirituality is the experience of life and Philosophy is the means in which we seek to understand that experience conceptually.




does spirituality have to be talked about through something?

me thinks spirituality is best talked talked about through oneself.




but its so nice talking to poeple with the same beleifs experienced through oneself/within.

im starting to give up though, unless i know someone has the same views as me im just gonna keep my mouth shut, cause they just think im a hippy spiritual freak.

like the tao teaches,

those who speak, do not know.
those who do not speak, know.

i am going to try and live in silent bliss, unattached to others views in relation to mine.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Chronic7]
    #8034269 - 02/17/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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but its so nice talking to poeple with the same beleifs




Reinforcement is powerful, which is why people congregate in churches. It rarely is conducive to learning though.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: Chronic7]
    #8034272 - 02/17/08 11:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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chronic777 said:im starting to give up though, unless i know someone has the same views as me im just gonna keep my mouth shut, cause they just think im a hippy spiritual freak.




yeah, just gotta watch who you talk about it around, but it does cross the line when one imposes views (not accusing you of this). these are just forums so it doesn't really matter, though it is way different with the people we associate with outside of the internet
(different mask).


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Re: This forums name... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8035305 - 02/17/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No, that isn't true. Finding someone who you can relate to through common experience is very conducive for learning if both individuals are of the type that are capable of learning and, in fact, engage within it. Maybe people who go to churches aren't as open to learning together. Relating and sharing understanding with another is usually a very positive, learning experience.


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Re: This forums name... [Re: deranger]
    #8035329 - 02/17/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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SyntheticMInd said:
Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Spirituality is the experience of life and Philosophy is the means in which we seek to understand that experience conceptually.




does spirituality have to be talked about through something? 

me thinks spirituality is best talked talked about through oneself.




What are you talking about? I stated that philosophy is the means in which we seek to understand that experience conceptually. If you want to discuss whether it is necessary to understand reality conceptually, through thinking (philosophy), that's another story, but I think everyone thinks and stuff. :shrug:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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