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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: mushbaby]
    #8036395 - 02/18/08 01:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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The "do it everyday" though, Middleman.  That bothers me a little.  The more you "go there" the harder it is to leave.  Makes it really hard to function on a practical level for me.




Hey I'm in my 30s too, and I'm just now learning how to operate with a blown mind.

I didn't mean trip every day though. :lol: I meant practice the self-development techniques in the books. :thumbup:

The powers of awareness that psychedelics trigger, when cultivated naturally over a long period of time, are much more manageable and beneficial.

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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: mushbaby]
    #8036463 - 02/18/08 01:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hmm my experiences while tripping have characteristically been just insanity. nothing too mystical. Tripping is what changed me from an agnostic towards pretty much a full blown atheist. I've had what some may call "breakthrough" experiences, but what people get from theses differ immensely, and for me i guess it was just an ego altering which gave me the feeling of nothingness (inspite of all the visuals and the situations i felt i was in) on the comedown or wave-out it all seemed too intangible, a vivid, yet much more insane than normal, dream.

Though on a similar note:
I only trip in groups of people where i can share the experience. And i feel that everyone is on the same wavelength and we can all communicate incredibly well and bonding is on a constantly good level.


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: Middleman]
    #8036682 - 02/18/08 05:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I wasn't talking about tripping everyday!  Good Lord! (or good insert your deity here so I stay pc :tongue:)

I was talking about the astral plane. 

Meditation however I love.  I always wanted to try a guided meditation. 

Flangenips, I guess it's just different for everyone.  Each trip is different as well.  I had such an extreme mystical experience this past summer that still has me questioning and thinking about the powers that be.  And myself.  But that's really why we do it isn't it?


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: mushbaby]
    #8036872 - 02/18/08 07:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

'I had such an extreme mystical experience this past summer that still has me questioning and thinking about the powers that be. And myself. But that's really why we do it isn't it?'

Can you explain more about your experience if you don't mind??
Did it involve mushrooms for example??

And from this thread can we conclude that operating on a blown mind is action more from the astral plane??


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8037247 - 02/18/08 09:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can't make that conclusion actually. But your mind can be blown from visiting that plane.

The time I had this summer was unique. I tripped for part of the journey, but it didn't start out that way. To be honest I don't want to do a trip report. If I did it would be posted where trip reports are posted.

What I am talking about here is whether or not I should incorporate what I experienced into what I believe. That's about the best way I know how to say it.


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: mushbaby]
    #8037308 - 02/18/08 10:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What would your beliefs describe if they weren't representative of your direct experience, sober or not??


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8038120 - 02/18/08 01:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That's a very good question.      Hmmmm.    :gum:


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: mushbaby]
    #8043219 - 02/19/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

the psychedelic world is an endless rabbit hole, the depth and layers to the experience is unimaginable by the inexperienced.

the imagination can crystalize to the point where thought manifests into 3d reality in various forms. think of it as a lucid dream, yet occuring in what appears to be the physical plane. it can appear so real, that you can even touch and feel your hallucinations/imagination. there is more to the astral plane than you currently realize, this goes for all of us. we can perceive it through various levels of awareness, the further we go into awareness the more "real" and utterly amazing the astral world becomes.

many define the third eye based on the limits of their experience. the third eye goes deep, deeeep into the conscious dream world.

i will trip till i die.

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SOMA [Re: Chronic7]
    #8043275 - 02/19/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Chronic777 said:
Order off the net?

Also living in egypt should be a blessing no?

The nile, the pyramids....




it would be a profound blessing and illumination of awareness to experience the dark room. staying in darkness for long periods of time is known to give one the ability to have full control over the dream world, let alone full on expanded consciousness/astral projection/obe's. apparently the nervous system becomes aware of itself, the body becomes aware of itself - awareness grows into a multidimensional expanded visionary experience that unifies us with the higher mind or gaia consciousness.

Whether these archaic Alchemical secrets were presented to the ancient Egyptian kings, or as the Soma of the ancient Veda's, whether it be the plant alchemy of the ancient Taoists, or the cave dark room alchemy of the Chinese sages and Tibetan Buddhists of the Vajrayana and Bon Po traditions; whether it be the Gnostic Christ teachings, or the Heavenly bread of the line of Kayin, the craftsman; whether it be the Shamans of the Amazon Basin, or the Shem.Ma.Na's of ancient Sumeria; whether it be the Zoroastrians and their Haoma, or Mohammed and the Espand; whether it be the Manichaeans, the Cathars, or the Templers with the Agape Arcanum; or the Northern gods Orthrorir Meade of immortality and wisdom, that Odin bequeathed.

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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: mushbaby]
    #8046415 - 02/20/08 09:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What I gather from the experience is this:

We are all plugged in. Call it the collective.
Could be individual imagination.
In any case there exists a source. The holy grail.
This source lies on the other side of a fragile barrier.
The barrier also keeps out the unwanted.
The barrier is a structure of mind.
Given keys, time, and thought...
One is allowed to traverse this barrier.
Psychedelics are chemical keys.
Psilocybin is a serotonin analogue.

I dream of an engine that runs on psilocybin.
Although the energy is probably subjective.
Brain.


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8046733 - 02/20/08 10:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I like that. Sometimes the barriers are created by us as well.

The ancient forest that Moonshoe spoke about in his thread. This is where I went. It felt like a return.



I've noticed no one is posting who doesn't believe these experiences are real. Even though M&P says you can't question others I did request opinions. I'm ok with someone saying they don't think they are real, just don't attack the other posters please.

Although not alot of people who don't believe hang out here.


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: Derk]
    #8046887 - 02/20/08 11:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Although I do not believe in gods, I do think that mushie trips are the most mystical experience I will ever have.


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: Bungalow Bill]
    #8047199 - 02/20/08 12:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

'The ancient forest that Moonshoe spoke about in his thread. This is where I went. It felt like a return.'

I have a strong feeling that you deserve a head piece.


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8047206 - 02/20/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Not getting it Backfromthedead.  :shrug:

That's cool Bungalow Bill.  :plur:


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: mushbaby]
    #8047229 - 02/20/08 01:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In less intellectual interpretations of the haloes of saints, some see the halo as symbolizing the saint's consciousness as 'radiating' beyond the physical body, and that it serves as a pictorial reminder to the saint's devotees of the saint's transcendence of the physical body[ci

The halo is a symbol of the Uncreated Light (Greek: Ἄκτισ&#964;ον Φῶς) or grace of God shinging forth through the icon. Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite in his Celestial Hierarcies speaks of the angels and saints being illuminated by the grace of God, and in turn illumining others.

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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8047231 - 02/20/08 01:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Tripping to me is the Christ vibe.
An initiation.




Heads.


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8047251 - 02/20/08 01:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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That guy is clearly tripping face.


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: Lion]
    #8047254 - 02/20/08 01:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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(Greek: Ἄκτισ&#964;ον Φῶς)


Looks like Klingon to me.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: Lion]
    #8047265 - 02/20/08 01:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Fire!!


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Re: Your opinion wanted [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8047274 - 02/20/08 01:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

While I by no means consider myself a saint. There was a difference with this trip than any other.

What's interesting about what you are saying is that there was someone there who was having a bad trip(it was a small gathering) and he walked by me and stopped and said "I'd just like to hang out with you for awhile, I'm having a bad time and there is just the brightest light around you. I feel safe here."

We sat and talked for awhile until he was in a better place mentally. I learned alot from him. But it wasn't like learning, more like being reminded of things I already know. Make sense anyone?

I wouldn't bring it up except for the light you spoke of.


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