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    #8029900 - 02/16/08 01:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just got a bunch of amanitas, and alot of the white spots ended up as shake at the bottom of the bag... Are they worth saving?


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: SurReality]
    #8029940 - 02/16/08 01:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yep I'm pretty sure the spots are potent. I always include the spots, and some guide I read mentioned the skins and spots are all you need if you have heaps...


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: burgatory]
    #8029976 - 02/16/08 01:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the spots are just the viel or whatever its called thats like a pillowcase over it when it comes outta the ground, but like burgatory said, the skin is the most potent. but i thought it was right underneath the epidermis that was the potent part. do your own experiment!!! best way to learn...since you know its not a posionous substance, play with it a little. but with Amys dont you have to eat around 30g to get right? so....that would be a lot of spots...

what is that called that covers a mushroom as it comes outta the ground???


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: just me]
    #8030336 - 02/16/08 07:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's called a veil.


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: bill3744]
    #8030983 - 02/16/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: just me]
    #8040457 - 02/18/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey I'm new here but have been reading alot on Amanitas, you don't need to eat 30g thats quite alot. But you do have to prepare it correctly or you will feel sick. it greatly depends on the potency of the mushrooms too.

http://www.shroomery.org/8671/Preparation-of-Amanita-muscaria

thats a good guide to preparing them, also i am in the same boat i just bought some A+ Washington state caps and I'm waiting for the right time to use it. Of all the preparation techniques I've read it basically goes like this. heat them in the oven on low heat for about a half an hour then grind them in a coffee grinder as fine as possible, then make tea out of it, let it cool and drink it. you want
the bad ibotenic acid to turn into good muscimole and heating it in the two stages from the oven to the tea will do that.

dosage:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_dose.shtml


but from what i read it greatly depends on how potent the shrooms are.

After it cools you can add whatever flavoring you want, i plan on using coolaid, i dunno about anything with citric acid in it as it could possibly kill the muscimole?


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: Agaric]
    #8040716 - 02/18/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

honestly drinking it isnt the best way cause it fills the bladder and makes you have to pee sooner. its best to fast and make your body so it wont have to pee the whole time.


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: thedudenj]
    #8041469 - 02/19/08 02:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

isnt the heating only for fresh mushrooms. most aminitas you get from vendors(at least in my experience) they were dried caps. so you just ingest a large quantity...say 30g. i think that dryin the caps does basically the same thing as heating fresh ones and converts somethin into somethin else so less sicky more trippy....i dont know tho, its been a while since ive done research on Amy's


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: just me]
    #8041470 - 02/19/08 02:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ya but from what i've read the oven isn't just for drying it also helps the chemical reaction.


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: Agaric]
    #8041510 - 02/19/08 03:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

heating transforms some annoying toxins that make you puke into safer ones.

the spots are just the veil of the shroom, it isn't a part of the cap just as pine needles that have fallen to the cap aren't a part of it. the skin itself is said to be more potent but it varies.


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Re: Amanita Spots active? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8041906 - 02/19/08 08:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ha ha thats just a rumor, how many people actually eat fresh ones? and then how many people do you know that eat em fresh with out nausea. Ask anyone that eats em fresh and doesnt get nausea which is better effects. cause i am one of who i speak and i say it has better effects and i didnt start there. just spend the last couple years working my way up to it now kinda regreting not eating all those others fresh


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