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ismokeweed
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rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization
#8028244 - 02/15/08 05:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've been ploppin em out in my hand, rinsing them off in the sink with just regular ol' tap water. While doing so I moved it around in my hand and especially where the verm layer was I rubbed off that extra verm pretty good.
While doing it yesterday I thought I remembered back when I first started reading that you were to touch the colonized cakes as little as possible to prevent bruising because the mushrooms don't grow as well (or not at all) where you touched them/where they bruised.
Now I understand that I have an incredibly shitty memory. Am I fine? or did every place i touch (which was about 75% of the cake) get bruised and won't produce fruits?
I think I'll be fine, but I always like to check with you geniouses as well.
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: ismokeweed]
#8028318 - 02/15/08 05:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why don't you dunk your cakes and roll them in verm?
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: Crasher]
#8028504 - 02/15/08 06:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I do. I take them out, rinse tem off (to get the verm layer off. just in case there was some contam caught in there). Then, I put them back in the jar and fill it up with water and a tiny bit of hydrogen peroxide. Let it sit in the fridge for twenty four hours, roll em in verm and stick it in the fc.
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: ismokeweed]
#8028859 - 02/15/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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they will pin where they have been touched.
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: tahoe]
#8028950 - 02/15/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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tahoe said: they will pin where they have been touched.
maybe he should touch 'em all over then. Add this to "pinning strategies"
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: antiPock]
#8029017 - 02/15/08 08:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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They get bruised all to hell from the dunk anyways, you dunk and roll in vermiculite because the verm will absorb any excess moisture left on the cake after the dunk and then the healthy sections of the cake will colonize the verm layer producing a un-damaged surface area for pin product/fruiting.
It's like a casing for cakes.
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: HybridprX]
#8029028 - 02/15/08 08:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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but hybridprx, I thought you said that the water will kill the mycelium
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: tahoe]
#8029045 - 02/15/08 08:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Standing water on mycelium will eventually drown it out and cause sections to overlay and mat with dead mycelium, sections like those will not fruit and that is why we dont allow standing water on areas we expect to see pins forming plus its a breeding ground for trich and bacteria to set in even if the cake is 100% colonized, it may be resilient but standing water will botch it.
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: tahoe]
#8029152 - 02/15/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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tahoe said: but hybridprx, I thought you said that the water will kill the mycelium
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: auweia]
#8029184 - 02/15/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
They get bruised all to hell from the dunk anyways, you dunk and roll in vermiculite because the verm will absorb any excess moisture left on the cake after the dunk and then the healthy sections of the cake will colonize the verm layer producing a un-damaged surface area for pin product/fruiting.
Or, do you roll because the verm will hold even more water than the cake will itself after it is misted? I can't imagine we would add vermiculite because it draws moisture away from the cake.
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Re: rinsing pf cakes a week after 100% colonization [Re: thedefone]
#8029214 - 02/15/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rinsing well by hand prior to the dunk and roll works great. In a way, it's a version of scratching, which actually helps encourage pinning. RR
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