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Offlinejaytonbye
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my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice.
    #8026438 - 02/15/08 09:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ok guys, I have a few questions that I still haven't been able to answer using the search engine:



1) 1 cake is producing mushrooms that look very different from the rest. I was hesitant to even put this cake into the terrarium because it looked wetter than the others.... the shrooms it is producing look lighter in color and shiny (almost slimy). will they be safe to eat? ( i do not have a camera yet, but plan on getting one within the week)

2) I'm using the perlite method, but today I came home and noticed that my relative humidity is at 86%... but the perlite is still noticably wet. why am I getting such a low RH while there is obviously enough water in the terrarium? (I don't think it's my hygrometer because the sides of the terrarium are pretty dry) ( I also messed up when putting in the perlite, the base is about 4" and the water level is pretty much the entire 4", although it had been keeping my terrarium at good humidity untill today)

3) How long will dried shrooms last in a glass jar with desiccant and not in a fridge? (I could only find this answer when refridgerated, and I do not have access to one)

all responses much appreciated. thanks.


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: jaytonbye]
    #8026454 - 02/15/08 09:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

have no answer on the slimey ones unless i seen a pic .. u should mist the sides and top of ur fc for further humidiity .. even if ur guage is on it its ok .. how many holes do u have in ur fc ? that would affect humidity .. as for desiccant .. i always fan dry .. its quicker ..


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8026509 - 02/15/08 10:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I did fan dry first... 2 days in a cardboard box with a coputer fan. They were nice and crispy when I transfered them into a glass container with desicant. I'm really looking to know how long they will last like that since I don't have a fridge. (it's about 70 degrees where they are)


I realized that the shiny shrooms had been in contact with the perlite... maybe they are just really water-logged???

I don't have any wholes in the sides of my terrarium, but the lid isn't a tight fit (more of a cover than a lid)...

Is it possible that I put too much water in the terrarium, and therefore it is submerging the perlite and rendering it useless?

I know my setup is pretty crummy, I'm looking forward to doing it all over again. I just wanna finish this flush and get it over with. thanks


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: jaytonbye]
    #8026579 - 02/15/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds just like my last flush.

Some mushies were laying on the perlite and were also very waterlogged.


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: jaytonbye]
    #8026580 - 02/15/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what is the cover on ur fc made of ? and how loose is it ? if your mushies are cracker dry i dont see the reason for desiccant and a fridge .. unless u live in a tropical kind of area ... ive had shrooms actually get wetter after putting them in the fridge .. desiccant isnt the longest lating medium either .. ud at least have to change that out in about 4 month cycles ...


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: jaytonbye]
    #8026595 - 02/15/08 10:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The base is about 4" and the water level is pretty much the entire 4", although it had been keeping my terrarium at good humidity untill today)

So what your saying is you have water in your Fc this is a big no no this will cause contams the whole purpose of the perlite is to make room for the water to evaporate off of the perlite so my suggestion to you is dreain out all the water in your Fc then refluff your perlite this should help with your Rh I am sure and if not then just mist more, possible add another inch or 2 of perlite if you can as well


I would be a little cautious about the slimy mushrooms if you have 4 inches of standing water this could possibly be a contam but dont I am not really sure. I wouldnt trust them until you get a pic and ask some of the experts standing water is a breeding ground for contams


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #8026640 - 02/15/08 10:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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The base is about 4" and the water level is pretty much the entire 4", although it had been keeping my terrarium at good humidity untill today)

So what your saying is you have water in your Fc this is a big no no this will cause contams the whole purpose of the perlite is to make room for the water to evaporate off of the perlite so my suggestion to you is dreain out all the water in your Fc then refluff your perlite this should help with your Rh I am sure and if not then just mist more, possible add another inch or 2 of perlite if you can as well


I would be a little cautious about the slimy mushrooms if you have 4 inches of standing water this could possibly be a contam but dont I am not really sure. I wouldnt trust them until you get a pic and ask some of the experts standing water is a breeding ground for contams




i often times keep 2 to 3 inches of water in the bottom of my fc with the perlite floating on top and a aquarium air pump pumping bubbles through an airstone under it .. i add about 12 oz of h2o2 to the water .. works badazz ..


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8026653 - 02/15/08 10:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes this method works a little better cause it has H202 in it which I think kills some contams as well as its not so much standing water it has some cirrculation with the bubbler but this guy saying he as much water as perlite and there is no point in having perlite if its soaked in water, if i want to add extra humidity instead of using that i put a jar of water in my Fc and put the bubbler in that then i can change it every day or 2 and reduce my risk

I also have a buddy since we live in colder climates who puts in 2 pints of hot water every 6 hours which massivley raises the Rh as well it raises is temps a little almost making his fc kinda tropical


Edited by TobesCanaian (02/15/08 10:47 AM)


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #8026739 - 02/15/08 10:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I also have a buddy since we live in colder climates who puts in 2 pints of hot water every 6 hours which massivley raises the Rh as well it raises is temps a little almost making his fc kinda tropical




you know what .. im going to try that right now lol ... im bored ..


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8026755 - 02/15/08 11:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It works he was haveing alot of issues with Rh until he started doing that then no issues at all his needle was always over 100 on his hygrometer


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #8028310 - 02/15/08 05:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what causes the desiccant to get worn out if it's in an airtight container? and how long will my dry shrooms stay good for?

I will drain my terrarium tomorrow. thanks


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: jaytonbye]
    #8028345 - 02/15/08 05:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

desiccant absorbs moisture. Eventually it reaches its saturation point, but generally you can solve that by baking the desiccant at 200 degrees for a while.


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: Crasher]
    #8030148 - 02/16/08 04:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I would think that if it was in an airtight container, there wouldn't be enough moisture in it to get worn out?

oh, and the big water logged shrooms, i picked them today... they drain water when I squeeze them, so yea, pretty much they are saturated. found what might be a little green mold on the cake, so i'm throwin it out. haven't decided what i'm gonna do with the shrooms yet.


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Re: my first pf tek is underway, would appreciate some advice. [Re: jaytonbye]
    #8030422 - 02/16/08 08:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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jaytonbye said:
1) 1 cake is producing mushrooms that look very different from the rest. I was hesitant to even put this cake into the terrarium because it looked wetter than the others.... the shrooms it is producing look lighter in color and shiny (almost slimy). will they be safe to eat? ( i do not have a camera yet, but plan on getting one within the week)

if they look different + are slimy huck them. if they just look different assume they're mutations or huck them.

2) I'm using the perlite method, but today I came home and noticed that my relative humidity is at 86%... but the perlite is still noticably wet. why am I getting such a low RH while there is obviously enough water in the terrarium? (I don't think it's my hygrometer because the sides of the terrarium are pretty dry) ( I also messed up when putting in the perlite, the base is about 4" and the water level is pretty much the entire 4", although it had been keeping my terrarium at good humidity untill today)

there shouldn't be "water" in your terrarium perlite should be soaked and well strained as perlite is to hold water on it's surface area not float in water to look good.

3) How long will dried shrooms last in a glass jar with desiccant and not in a fridge?
months if they're dry and kept in a cold dark place - i wouldn't bothe r storing with a desiccant.




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