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OfflineJTShroom
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Halted colonization and discoloration
    #802568 - 08/07/02 02:54 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

In the beginning my jars started to colonize very quickly. I had set up my incubator (rubbermaid container(s) set up with a fish tank heater) and set the temp. to about 85 degrees. After about 2 weeks growth seems to have stopped and I can see small spots of discoloration, slightly yellowish, but it doesn't look like mold and I don't smell anything funky inside. Also I can see some excess water inside the jars, I must have screwed up when I measured the water for the substrate. Anyway, if anyone knows what is happening and how i can fix the problem then please help! Thanks in advance.


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Re: Halted colonization and discoloration [Re: JTShroom]
    #802574 - 08/07/02 02:58 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Almost forgot, I took pics!




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Re: Halted colonization and discoloration [Re: JTShroom]
    #802585 - 08/07/02 03:01 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

A build-up of water is normal especially when you use an incubator, (it tends to draw out the moisture.) As long as you dab off the excess moisture with a kleenex it will be fine. Oh and by the way, it lookes like your cakes are fucked. I hate to say it but I am 99% sure they will yield nothing. Good luck in the future.


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Re: Halted colonization and discoloration [Re: Odd_Snail]
    #802590 - 08/07/02 03:03 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Any particular reason you think they are fucked? Just telling me the are fucked doesn't really help me too much. If I knew where my mistake was or what I could have done to prevent this I wouldn't make the same mistake again. Is there any way I can remedy the situation?


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Re: Halted colonization and discoloration [Re: JTShroom]
    #802594 - 08/07/02 03:09 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

well in general a mycelium stops growing when something went wrong, but thats not always the case. If your jars are inside an incubator with constant temp in the range of 84 - 86 F, then there is a big chance that your mycelium is just taking a nap and will wake up later on. It happens sometimes.

on the other side, i had a jar that the mycelium stopped and never, ever woke up. it just died. it never smell anything bad and it was not a contamination issue. I searched a lot and i found out that i had done an error on the dosage: rye flour was too little.

so i think you should wait a little bit. if it still not growing, smell it again [remember to use your hand so as to throw the air close to your nose, dont put your nose on the jar, there is a serious health hazard!!!!!]. if its not contaminated, then you probably have done something wrong with the creation of the mixture. in that case you can either throw them out of the window or you can use the existed mycelium to innoculate newly made jars - perhaps it will work and save you from some time and spores.

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Re: Halted colonization and discoloration [Re: JTShroom]
    #802596 - 08/07/02 03:12 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

uh!!! i didnt c your pics! this f**** pc is working like an idiot... had to clear all my temp-internet filez... anyway

yeah, your pics show that the mycelium isnt healthy, imho.

it should be bright white... if this is your first time, check out some healthy mycelia pix on the "mushroom pictures" forum [do a search]

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    #802909 - 08/07/02 05:36 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: Halted colonization and discoloration [Re: dog]
    #812717 - 08/12/02 12:07 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Well, I figured since all my jars had stopped growing it wouldn't hurt to just leave them in the incubator a little longer and see what happens... I had covered the jars inside the incubator with a towel to keep some of the heat in, I guess that was a bad idea, seems it was a little too warm in there. I took the towel out and lowered the heat a little (the heater had accidently been turned up to about 93 degrees by a friend) and so far so good! The discoloration is almost completely gone and the mycelium has started to spread again. I was so happy I could almost cry... heh, anyway, thanks for the suggestions before. I'll post more pics when I can.


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