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PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake??
    #8024435 - 02/14/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have 2 Pesa cakes in my fruiting chamber. I cold shocked 1 of them immersed in water and put in the fridge for 24 hours and the other I just dunked at room temp for 24 hours. That was over a week ago. The cake I cold shocked started fruiting within the first couple days. Now it's filled with pins and mushrooms but the cake I dunked at room temp still hasn't shown a single pin yet. It's showing bumps and such but it's been showing them for days now with no pins.

The reason I tried this experiment of cold shocking one and not the other is because I've done a search on cold shocking in here and most people say that doing so with Cubes is unnecessary with cubes and sometimes harmful. Well I've discovered first hand that this is not the case. The 1 Pesa I cold shocked is even doing better than the 2 Oxaca cakes I also have in the chamber that I pinned without dunking and just light. I tried some of the shrooms last night and they were good.....

Does anyone know if I should re-dunk the stalled cake and put it in the fridge for 12-24 Hours? Or would that be a No no. If I wait another week and see no pins can I still Re-dunk? Should I wait much longer. I'm guessing it's going on 7 days with no pins. The cake I cold shocked is already ending it's 1st flush shortly.

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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8024505 - 02/14/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The reason you are supposed to put them in the fridge when you dunk is not to cold shock but to keep any possible contaminants that are in the water from having a chance.

Possibly the reason the cake you dunked in room temp isn't showing much yet is because it's fighting off contaminants.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: mushbaby]
    #8024603 - 02/14/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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The reason you are supposed to put them in the fridge when you dunk is not to cold shock but to keep any possible contaminants that are in the water from having a chance.

Possibly the reason the cake you dunked in room temp isn't showing much yet is because it's fighting off contaminants.




this is a good response ... i always dunk in the refrigerator for that reason .. a more likely scenario i think is that 1 of the cakes didnt colonize completely through the middle though it looked fully done like the other ... it wont fruit till it senses its runnin out of cheetos in there .. cheers ..


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8027882 - 02/15/08 03:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If I re-dunked it and put it in the fridge for about 12 hours would that screw up the cake?


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8028415 - 02/15/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sturmet, no..

just make sure you remove all primordia, or pins
that may exsist ont he cake..


the bumps, sound like knots, I wouldnt redunk,
just give it some time, you'll get fruits soon enough.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8028468 - 02/15/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok. I just dunked the cake again and put it in the fridge. I'm gonna leave it in until tomorrow morning. Hopefully this will help.

The cake has no contamination and there even seems to be little bumps forming so it looks just to be on the verge of pinning. but my other Pesa is covered in fruits and so is my Oaxaca cake. I buried my other Oaxaca cake in the backyard hoping for fruits outside.

Pesa seems to teke it's time with fruiting it's much slower than Oaxaca was and while I had no Aborts with the Oaxaca. PESA seems to like to abort pins.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8029659 - 02/15/08 11:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ive come to notice that fast colonizers are slow fruiters and vise versa .. funny lil things mushies are ...


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8029981 - 02/16/08 02:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

After dunking, roll in verm. Then mist. Then use the Search feature and read for more info.
Works for me.


Edited by thatamatt (02/16/08 02:07 AM)


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: thatamatt]
    #8032345 - 02/16/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I took it out of the fridge this morning and re-rolled in vermiculite. I just wanted to make sure that re-dunking after 7 days in the fruiting chamber wouldn't screw up anything. My first PESA cake is already near the end of it's first flush.

One of the reasons I didn't put the 2nd cake in the fridge is cause when doing a search most people said not to cold shock cubes. It could stall fruiting since they are tropical. I found just the opposite.

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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8033627 - 02/17/08 03:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah man, The "cold shock" is not necessary for Cubes(won't hurt)just gonna delay any progress toward your goal.

Keep reading the boards. I learn something new everyday.

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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: thatamatt]
    #8040651 - 02/18/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks, thatamatt. I've learned quite a lot with the search engine here. It seems any question I have I just type it in the search and find someone in the past that has asked the same question. It's only a few that I have to post for feedback.

As I mentioned before I tried both methods with my 2 PESA cakes one dunked in the fridge and 1 dunked at room temp. The one in the fridge started fruiting 1-2 days after I put it in the Aquarium while the other didn't fruit at all. I still haven't seen any pins yet after re dunking and putting in the fridge. The other cake I've just harvested the biggest flush out of all 3 of my prior cakes.

This is my first grow. Other than my Spawn Bag of Cambo's. It's still colonizing.

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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8040668 - 02/18/08 10:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've noticed on all the vendor sights it says PESA's will react well to cold shocking.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8041531 - 02/19/08 03:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Sturmer88 on my first grow I followed pf-tek instructions using B+ spore syringe.

I lost a couple jars do to contams so I had four remaining.
Three(1 pint jars)fruited and one just sat there in the same fruiting chamber fully colonized for a month or so. I tried just about everything to get it fruit but nothing worked. It was probably do to genetics.

As you probably know these multispore syringes are kind of a crap shoot. I'm going try the LC Cloning - Newbie friendly pictorial tek! on my just started new grow.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: thatamatt]
    #8048534 - 02/20/08 06:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Did you dunk the B+ cakes in the fridge? I just checked the fruiting chamber. It's been about 2 days since i took it out of the fridge and it's finally starting to pin. It definitely was the dunking in the fridge that did the trick. cause my first PESA cake I just re-dunked after a huge harvest and it was dunked in the fridge first also.

I've made a few Spore syringes and some spore prints. Pesa seems to print pretty easily but the Oaxaca caps were near impossible to print. I couldn't get any spore prints made from Oaxaca but I do have an LC clone from the biggest fattest Oaxaca fruit.

My Cambo spawn bag is starting to show fluffy myc nots so I can't wait to check that out. I just got some Rye Berry from MycoPath. 5 pounds with some Large and medium resealable filter bags and crushed oyster shells. next I'm gonna try the coco coir grow.

Have you done many grows with 1 pint jars? I'm trying to decide weather to do my next brf cake grow with 1/2 pint or pint cakes. I'd like to know how much bigger the harvest could be. I know PESA kicked Oxaca's ass in harvest size. It could also be that I never dunked the Oaxaca cakes.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8050435 - 02/21/08 02:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Did you dunk the B+ cakes in the fridge?




No I just dunked at room temperature for about 12 hours. Rinsed and roll then lightly misted a couple hours later. Pins showed up in 3-4 days.

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Have you done many grows with 1 pint jars?




Only twice. My grow has to be stealthy so space is limited. I would go with 1/2 pint. They will definitely colonize faster and the chance of contams would be less.

I just acquired 5 mycobags from mycobags.com. They should produce more shrooms in the small space that I have. I'll be trying Psilocybe cubensis Ecuador for the first time and B+ in the only other strain I've grown.

sturmer88, sounds like you have a lot of experience with the more exotic cubes. Hopefully(soon) in the future I'll get a crack at that.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: thatamatt]
    #8052672 - 02/21/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Actually this is my first grow other than the spawn bag I have. but I inoculated 6 1/2 pint jars for my first grow with 4 separate strains. Tasmanian, Oaxaca, PESA, and Mazatapec. Only the Oaxaca and PESA's germinated ok. but I tried different methods of initiating pinning on each of the 4 jars I had left. Dunking in the fridge, dunking at room temp and not dunking at all. By far I got the best results from dunking in the fridge.

I look forward to trying one of the many casing tek's next. I'm trying to decide which strain to try out next. I just got some more spores in the mail. So now I have. Texans, Golden Teacher, Lipa Yai, Mazatapec, Koh Samui 'Super Strain', PESA, OAXACA, and Ps. Cyanescens.

I look forward to trying each of these strains out It's great how much info you can learn from this forum even a Noob like me can have the knowledge of an expert. Do you have any suggestions on which strain I should try next? I'm gonna go with more than one. I might even try the Cyan's. I hear they are really potent.


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8053109 - 02/21/08 06:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

~Aren't PESA supposed to do better on bulk?~


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: Psuper]
    #8057469 - 02/22/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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~Aren't PESA supposed to do better on bulk?~




I'm sure thats true. I'm planning on my next grow soon. I just got peat Moss and Verm for the casing layer along with Steer manure from Orchard supply Hardware.

I wanna try a multi spore grow. I'm thinking of PESA and another strain from the list I mentioned above. If you have any suggestions I'd appreciate it. I wanted to give Peuto Rican a try but the vendor accidently sent me 2 Texans instead. I'm not bitching cause the rest of the order came just fine. I can hardly go through the 8-9 strains I have now. I might just try a casing Tek for the multi spore grow and then Pf Cakes with 1 of each strain also.

I'm thinking of getting a good woodlover spawn bag minus the spores and inocc. with my Ps Cyan syringe. I have an extra fridge I can set at 45 degrees. Or I can set my current fridge at 40 degree and hope the food stays ok.

Any suggestions on a good woodlover grow kit from a shroomery sponser would be appreciated. I'm looking at this one:

Supplemented Sawdust Block w/ Rye Grain Pocket, Mushroom Grow Bag w/ injection site - 3lb 15.00$


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: sturmer88]
    #8070964 - 02/26/08 12:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

~Yeah, I really want to see some new grow logs with PESA and Mazatapec....on bulk.~Pixie~


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Re: PESA BRF fruiting question... Stalled cake?? [Re: Psuper]
    #8074575 - 02/26/08 08:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I Haven't made a grow log yet. I've decided to inoculate 1 half pint jar of each strain. I also Have some Clone LC for my fattest Oaxaca Fruit. Oaxaca was impossible to print. I hear the same with Mazatapec.

Have you had any experience with mazatapec? I've heard good things about it. I have read that the Mexican strains give a strong spiritual trip. I'm looking for a real visual trip. if the Cubes don't do the trick. I should be getting my Sawdust Block w/ Rye Grain Wood lover spawn bag in the mail soon. I'm sure Ps Cyan will be quite visual from what I read. I just hope that spawning in a fridge won't be to hard. i will definitely make a grow log for that.


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