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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8028109 - 02/15/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

that was my trip report if you must know :cool:


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8028117 - 02/15/08 04:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You should be very proud. :wink:


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8028130 - 02/15/08 04:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

why is that?

i felt like i was about experience ego death and i started fighting it, therefore fucking it up. i wasn't ready/was too scared or my ego was.


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8028186 - 02/15/08 05:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
that was my trip report if you must know :cool:




So, what is the meaning that you were trying to get across with the title of the report....?


>^;;^<


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8028193 - 02/15/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You or your ego? Please 'splain the difference.


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8028243 - 02/15/08 05:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
that was my trip report if you must know :cool:




So, what is the meaning that you were trying to get across with the title of the report....?


>^;;^<




that i was freaked out in a place that has no measurements, no time or space and i was reduced to a single thought, like i was condemned to the smallest and the most important piece of existence, being essentially non-existance, yet not death.

i don't know what death is but that was scarier and greater. it was not an end, it hadn't ever begun, it just WAS. a rabid dog eating itself, a snake swallowing its own tail.


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8028271 - 02/15/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Non-existence does not exist.

The brain is not the mind.

Don't ask me to prove it, you'll have your proof soon enough.


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Middleman]
    #8029493 - 02/15/08 10:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So then tell me, if non-existence does not exist, what does exist?


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Middleman]
    #8029681 - 02/15/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Non-existence does not exist.




that's exactly why it is "called" non-existence by our linguistic center in the brain. i don't think i can comprehend it on a sufficient level for me to articulate it.

and i don't feel the need to make myself understandable to others by it, words only confuse and muddle the memory of it.


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8029690 - 02/15/08 11:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"It seems there is something rather than nothing,
Non-existence does not exist.
I'm trying to explain the essence of Fear
To get a realization of what I consist."


Those are actually lyrics from one of my favorite albums.

I once heard it while tripping and understood it very deeply somehow.


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Middleman]
    #8029701 - 02/15/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

during the tail end of that trip i asked my sitter to put on my pantera cd and "Immortally Insane" started playing. there was nothing more horrifying than to listen to this:

Destroying, destroying
Foundation, foundation
I'm going, I'm going
Forever, forever

Immortally insane
Immortally insane
Immortally insane
Immortally insane


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8029792 - 02/16/08 12:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Exactly, I don't understand why folks say believers in the afterlife are just afraid of non-existence at death.

An eternal individuated consciousness and continuous re-embodiment seems far more frightening...


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Middleman]
    #8029969 - 02/16/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't understand why folks say believers in the afterlife are just afraid of non-existence at death.




Wht fabricate such a fairy tale unless there is fear of cessation? There is no evidence to back up such a story and no other reason makes sense.


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Re: Death Is Nothing Compared To Non-Existence [Re: Middleman]
    #8029991 - 02/16/08 02:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, non-existence exists for sure. I always keep repeating this. Think of a dried-out river.
Then I usually say, I am happy for the non-existing nuclear-plant in my garden. And I am sad about my non-existing girl-friend, which keeps visiting me almost every day.


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