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Re: Do my jars look ok? Help! (Good pics) [Re: joker_man]
    #8026783 - 02/15/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, a little wet, keep your eye out for the sour smell of bacillus. If it gets a more yellow and slimy in those wet areas you've got it for sure.


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Re: Do my jars look ok? Help! (Good pics) [Re: Twiggs]
    #8026785 - 02/15/08 11:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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8. Allowed to cool overnight and then inoculated with spore syringe (1 cc each) and shaken well




when the pressure cooker is depresurized take them out and shake them then, then put back in to cool overnight, then nock them up (without shaking)





I've read about this before, but nobody really gave a good reason why to shake the jars immediately after pressure cooking. What is resulting difference?

Also, why wouldn't you shake the jars after inoculating? I was under the impression that you want to disperse the spores as much as possible so colonization begins in more places. Thanks!


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Re: Do my jars look ok? Help! (Good pics) [Re: joker_man]
    #8026808 - 02/15/08 11:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if the seed is done right it will not need to be shaken before it cools.

If it isnt done correctly or not simmered just mixed together the seed will burst and stick together. Just like the shitty white rice your mom used to cook. It will cool into a lump of shit if you do not shake it while hot


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Re: Do my jars look ok? Help! (Good pics) [Re: joker_man]
    #8026892 - 02/15/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

when you shake the grains are not compressed, so more air pockets inside. its just a better environment from myc to spread. lets say if you purposely packed your grains, it would take longer, is this true???? its just what i read.

as far as not shaking. look into how spores germinate. I'm not sure off the top of my head. but when you let them sit they have a better chance of finding a mate and creating myc. lets say you shoot it up with 3cc's. if that 3cc's is in one spot your spores will germinate quicker. if you shake it can add another 3-4 days on it. so establish some solid myc, then shake, and those grains will recover after a day and start to spread all through the jar...

hope this helped, probably my longest post so far.


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Re: Do my jars look ok? Help! (Good pics) [Re: Twiggs]
    #8026941 - 02/15/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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when you shake the grains are not compressed, so more air pockets inside. its just a better environment from myc to spread. lets say if you purposely packed your grains, it would take longer, is this true???? its just what i read.

as far as not shaking. look into how spores germinate. I'm not sure off the top of my head. but when you let them sit they have a better chance of finding a mate and creating myc. lets say you shoot it up with 3cc's. if that 3cc's is in one spot your spores will germinate quicker. if you shake it can add another 3-4 days on it. so establish some solid myc, then shake, and those grains will recover after a day and start to spread all through the jar...

hope this helped, probably my longest post so far.




That makes sense and I'm sure it will help. I will be sure to do this next time. Much appreciated :thumbup:


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Re: Do my jars look ok? Help! (Good pics) [Re: joker_man]
    #8027005 - 02/15/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

dont let it get to you DOC. alot of people take your advice very professionally and it would be a shame to see you go over something like this. just think of how much repetitivness and bs RR has gone through over the years and hes still around. stick around buddy, i like reading your posts and so do alot of other people


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