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dwtk
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Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up..
#8023412 - 02/14/08 05:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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SWIM might be getting some mesc capsules soon. He's really excited but at the same time scared to try it, since it has a reputation for making users sick. SWIM has held down diffcult mushroom 8ths and such in the past, but he is still scared of throwing up. SWIM's biggest fear in fact (or one of them), is throwing up.
If SWIM is to try one he will plan on taking a Dramamine, and possibly some ginger root pills and mint tea. Anyway..
Do you think SWIM will have a high risk of puking on one cap and are there any other tricks SWIM could consider using/doing?
Thanks!
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: dwtk]
#8023420 - 02/14/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pussy.
No but seriously I throw up all the time,lol, dont be scared its something you get used to and mescaline is worth it.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: dwtk]
#8023425 - 02/14/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol. I had a deathly fear of throwing up when i was young but that quickly subsided when i went to college
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Coaster
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: maynardsdick]
#8023453 - 02/14/08 05:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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smoke weed, it supressed vomit drink ginger root, helps with ur stomach do mescy on an empty stomach then ull be fine one time i was so stoned i ate a whole thing of oreos then i threw up all this black oreo shit lol and i was so stoned it was the only time i enjoyed throwin up i had a huge grin on my face when it was over, i felt so wrong, yet right lol
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: Coaster]
#8023519 - 02/14/08 05:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont know if its part of the experience or not.
Purging can be quite good sometimes, and is extremely surreal and powerful when tripping.
I wouldn't worry about it, if it happens, it happens. Maybe try do an extraction?
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: Coaster]
#8023522 - 02/14/08 05:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've never thrown up from even the tea. I've felt "questionable" at times, but it passes. If you're getting extracted mescaline, you should be fine. I think the nausea is over dramatized.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: maynardsdick]
#8023529 - 02/14/08 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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maynardsdick said: Lol. I had a deathly fear of throwing up when i was young but that quickly subsided when i went to college
maynards dick is an awesome song lol.
To the OP: Don't be such a pussy, not too many people get the chance to try mescaline, i mean take some dramamine and some bud to quell the nausea but if you throw up, you throw up, deal with it.
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dwtk
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: 04281969]
#8023542 - 02/14/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You guys already convinced me. Part of the reason I guess I'm so afraid of throwing up, is because it's hard to know what to expect since it's extremely rare that I do. A few weeks ago (when I had the flu), I threw up for the first time since middle school. Looks like the suggested methods will be enough to help either way.
Anyway, thanks a lot guys.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: dwtk]
#8023720 - 02/14/08 06:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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sometimes it can feel good to throw up on cactus. the purge is just a part of the experience.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: dwtk]
#8023721 - 02/14/08 06:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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man if i were you puking would be about the last thing on my mind lol
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: ShroomDoom]
#8023803 - 02/14/08 06:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ShroomDoom said: sometimes it can feel good to throw up on cactus. the purge is just a part of the experience.
Most def. It's totally cleansing.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: zSDMF]
#8023804 - 02/14/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm paranoid that if I start throwing up while tripping I will only get sick by it and keep throwing up.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: Banana03]
#8023831 - 02/14/08 06:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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? its not like that at all unless you just have a vomit fear, but i understand where some people might have one of those.. i puke when it comes, doesn't bother me at all. i guess i thought booze put that skin on most people.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: Coaster]
#8023834 - 02/14/08 06:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: one time i was so stoned i ate a whole thing of oreos then i threw up all this black oreo shit lol and i was so stoned it was the only time i enjoyed throwin up i had a huge grin on my face when it was over, i felt so wrong, yet right lol
HAHA thats the funniest thing Ive heard all day
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: fear.loathingSF]
#8023845 - 02/14/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Throwing up isnt bad at all. Why would you be scared of it?
Think about the positives vs negatives,
Positives: Mescaline trip, ~12 hours.
Negatives: Throwing up, <30 seconds.
It should be a no brainer.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: dwtk]
#8023866 - 02/14/08 06:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i never trip without it.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: wrestler_az]
#8023911 - 02/14/08 06:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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a clean extract, fasting, dramamine, plus cannabis makes all the difference
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: deadatdusk]
#8023916 - 02/14/08 06:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tums!
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: anyone420]
#8024848 - 02/14/08 10:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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anyone420 said: Throwing up isnt bad at all. Why would you be scared of it?
Think about the positives vs negatives,
Positives: Mescaline trip, ~12 hours.
Negatives: Throwing up, <30 seconds.
It should be a no brainer.
I puked for FARRR more than 30 seconds. I would say more like an hour... 30 minutes at least. The end of the purge I had puked so much I didn't think I could puke anymore but still felt like I wasn't done (if that makes any sense)... so just when I thought I couldn't puke anymore BAM! 3 huge streams of puke... I couldn't believe I had that much in me still.
To OP I'm not saying this to discourage you from dosing at all, just pointing out it isn't 30 seconds and gone for every1. I must mention also that puking was actually sort of pleasant even though it lasted so long, and the trip was just mind-blowing; definitely worth it.
Also, the guy who sold me the peyote said to eat 10-15g and I ate the whole ounce and it was my firs time trying peyote so it was a very strong dose for what it's worth... smoked a good amount of buds too of course...
Edited by superchief (02/14/08 10:10 PM)
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: superchief]
#8025314 - 02/14/08 11:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you dont OD on it you tend not to throw up your body knows when you take too much and makes you vomit specailly when people try rue and cactus the body says fuck fuck no what the fuck man. also if your up for the trip and afraid of vomiting im sure you have way more to worry about
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: thedudenj]
#8025392 - 02/15/08 12:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't puke at all, I did about 17-20G dried of strong P.Torch.
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thedudenj
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: felix4life]
#8025470 - 02/15/08 12:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah when you eat 70g of that your body rejects
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: thedudenj]
#8025580 - 02/15/08 12:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would you eat 70G of Dried Cacti? That a bit tooooo much in my opinion, no wonder the body rejects it.
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thedudenj
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: felix4life]
#8025665 - 02/15/08 01:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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thats the point im making people take too high of a dose all the time which leads to purge. tho if mixed with caapi you get the caapi purge sometime i only got it a tiny precent of the times and im my peoples alot of my brews have had no purge of vomiting or only i purge or one other person. everyone else feels that purdge tho. theres way better forms of purging then just vomiting like actually talking out those issuses and such
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: thedudenj]
#8025696 - 02/15/08 01:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i like reading this type of posts. i have the same questions and originally had no intentions of ever trying mescal, but i feel with some more reading, i might be ready. probably make the tea though.
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thedudenj
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: smokeybear]
#8025699 - 02/15/08 01:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah tea is a good idea specially with passion flower
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: smokeybear]
#8026238 - 02/15/08 08:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's been confused for many years, but mescal is something different than mescaline.
Mescal is a liquor. "Tequila is to mescal what Champagne is to sparkling wines or what Cognac is to brandy."
There is also a mescal bean (Sophora secundiflora), which contains an alkaloid called cytisine.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: 04281969]
#8026252 - 02/15/08 08:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mezcal
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: blacksun]
#8026312 - 02/15/08 09:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know this is all slightly off topic to the original post, but there are also the Mescal mountains in Arizona.
And, there's also the agave Mescal Ceniza.
"The mescal harvest occurs in the season of new life and growth, when the call from the wild is strong in the blood, and like a class of children-for they are but grown-up children-they pour out into the wilds. From the camp where they have passed the winter they take to the trails which lead to the mescal hills."
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: 04281969]
#8026792 - 02/15/08 11:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've ate san pedro twice and didn't puke. Both times we took about a foot cutting per person and boiled it down into a tea with some lemon juice. So a fairly low dose. Higher doses seem to cause more nausea and a higher risk of vomiting. Just bright colors, wavy patterns and generally everything being awesome. Very glowing. Six of us drank it and nobody puked. Just nausea for 30-60 minutes then it all went away.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: alaricxi]
#8027140 - 02/15/08 12:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i had some of that liqour from mexico the other day it was nice.
congrats man! btw
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: thedudenj]
#8027235 - 02/15/08 01:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, when i took it, i actually didn't throw up til i was coming down, don't know why. anyway, to me it wasn't extreme naseua, it was almost automatic, like a body induced thing or something.
i think the vomiting has something to do with the reaction your body gets to the fact that mescaline is absorbed as adrenaline and then trips your brain chemistry. I think all psychedelics do that, but mescaline is the heaviest(100 milligram range instead of 100 microgram to 10 milligram range) - i'm pretty sure that's what it is
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: thedudenj]
#8027440 - 02/15/08 01:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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some mesc capsules
You won't be sick, unless you have a phenylalanine allergy.
The reason people are sick on mescaline is not like yagé. It's because it tastes fucking awful and bitter.
It can't be worse than calea. And in capsules, you have nothing to worry about.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8027795 - 02/15/08 03:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read that the mescaline itself will induce nausea. If you're particularly sensitive to its effects, you'll honk. But, many like myself don't have a problem with it at all.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: blacksun]
#8028300 - 02/15/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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^^^ Mescal
<<< Mezcal
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: Mezcal]
#8028476 - 02/15/08 06:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Perhaps traditionally it should be spelled with a z, but the drink is spelled both ways today. http://www.oaxacanstuff.com/mescal.htm Funny thing is that all the other pages at that site spell it with a z. In any case, it still isn't mescaline.
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: 04281969]
#8028569 - 02/15/08 06:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ha ha when mixing caapi and p torch the nausea is like yage if it happens
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: thedudenj]
#8028627 - 02/15/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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not sure if this is true for all
but i keep a few xanex around at all times, its my safety drug
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Re: Wanting to try mesc.. but scared of throwing up.. [Re: dwtk]
#8029474 - 02/15/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you're scared of throwing up now but IMO once you start tripping you will not care. Its hard to believe but its true. Just let the experience take your fear away and you will be liberated.
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