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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8024164 - 02/14/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That is bullshit unless you're within 15 feet. I do agree with you about the fact that college students should be allowed to carry their weapons onto public campuses if they have a carry and conceal license. What weapon do you carry, lefty? The laws in GA are pretty lax.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8024165 - 02/14/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Meh only five dead and probably only one or two of those attractive blonde teenagers... this won't be in the news long.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #8024180 - 02/14/08 07:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so crazy I have a few friends that go there and went to a party a few weekends back in that area


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: robbyberto]
    #8024202 - 02/14/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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That is bullshit unless you're within 15 feet. I do agree with you about the fact that college students should be allowed to carry their weapons onto public campuses if they have a carry and conceal license. What weapon do you carry, lefty? The laws in GA are pretty lax.




whats bullshit?

Kel-Tec P3AT .380 - thats what i carry in my pocket at almost all times. i also have a S&W sigma 9mm i keep in my car. how about you?


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8024233 - 02/14/08 07:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i agree. guns don't belong in schools. but i think taser guns should be allowed to be carried by anybody for their own protection.




how are you going to tase a gunman? :shrug:


i dont see why so many people cant understand that law abiding people, the ones who take the time to go about getting a gun, and training with it, then getting their CWL, are NOT the people who are going to abuse their right. they(myself included) only want to protect themselves and the people around them.

make the laws concerning getting the weapons and the licenses harder, im all for that. but dont tell responsible people that they have to go into a public place and worry about being shot to death because other people are scared of guns.

limiting responsible peoples rights concerning guns will not stop violent crime. illegal guns are all around us, and always will be. you can ban guns and they will still be there. arm the good citizens and the criminals will be less enticed to commit the same crimes. think about it, if you were a maniac with a gun, and you know of two highly populated schools in your area, one of which allowed responsible, law abiding students to carry their concealed  weapons, and the other forbid it.... which do you think you would choose to attack?





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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8024248 - 02/14/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have a hard time believing that you only need two shots to take out a heavily armed attacker with a handgun at any appreciable distance. You would have to be a very good shot. EDIT: I sort of miss read your post, but it would still be rather difficult to take a guy out with one clip.
I would probably be carrying a .40 Smith and Wesson or a .45 1911, but I can only buy rifles and shotguns.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #8024265 - 02/14/08 07:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think there's a risk with school shootings that goes beyond the obvious:
With mass media capitalizing on the shocking, tragic, sensational nature of these stories by replaying them constantly, people inadvertently begin to distort and exaggerate their actual significance. The result is natural, understandable, predictable, sometimes appropriate but often excessive to the point of being counter-productive (as when it reaches massive proportions): fear and anxiety.
Such events as today warrant close scrutiny from every reasonable angle so that we can place them in context, because without context the "best", most genuine meaning (that from which we can draw constructive ideas) is severely degraded or lost.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: robbyberto]
    #8024269 - 02/14/08 08:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I have a hard time believing that you only need two shots to take out a heavily armed attacker with a handgun at any appreciable distance. You would have to be a very good shot. I would probably be carrying a .40 Smith and Wesson or a .45 1911, but I can only buy rifles and shotguns.




ive been going to the range regularly since i was 15 with my dad. shot his .22 until i was 17 then started shooting his 9mm until i was able to purchase my own at 21. i since then have bought my .380 and a .357 mag. i hve gone to the range every other weekend for the last 2 years. i also do bowling pin shoot every 3rd saturday.

believe me or not :shrug:. i am an awesome shot and i could put a bullet within 6 inches of the bullseye at 50 feet. i do it every other weekend. with all three guns.

edit: it wouldnt be hard at all. if hes less than 50 ft away then its easier than what i do on a regular basis. 1 bullet, two max. considering if im not having a good day :smirk:


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8024274 - 02/14/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That seems pretty far fetched, but I'll have to take your word for it. I'm a pretty poor shot so that may have swayed my opinion. I could only make shots like that consistently with a Ruger Mark III or another target pistol.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: heartofalion]
    #8024286 - 02/14/08 08:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Speechless...


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: robbyberto]
    #8024293 - 02/14/08 08:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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That seems pretty far fetched, but I'll have to take your word for it. I'm a pretty poor shot so that may have swayed my opinion. I could only make shots like that consistently with a Ruger Mark III or another target pistol.




go regularly for several years, it becomes nature, like driving. i have a ruger mark nice gun for a .22


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8027020 - 02/15/08 12:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080214_northern-illinois-university-shooter.pdf

THATS JUST PLAIN FUCKED UP THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS SHOULD BURN IN THE DEEPEST PITS OF HELL


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: heartofalion]
    #8027040 - 02/15/08 12:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

fuck it. these people are best left in the dust.. :shrug: move forward with love. :heart:


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: heartofalion]
    #8027069 - 02/15/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080214_northern-illinois-university-shooter.pdf

THATS JUST PLAIN FUCKED UP THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS SHOULD BURN IN THE DEEPEST PITS OF HELL




Just trolls, man. Ignore, ignore.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #8027075 - 02/15/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm getting bored of making the same post about America and guns every month when there's a school shooting.

Constitution > children's lives. No need to explain I get it


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8027173 - 02/15/08 12:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I went a lot over the last summer. I was getting decent, but I stopped shooting when school started. It's been a few months since I've gone shooting.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: heartofalion]
    #8027552 - 02/15/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080214_northern-illinois-university-shooter.pdf

THATS JUST PLAIN FUCKED UP THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS SHOULD BURN IN THE DEEPEST PITS OF HELL




dont pay them any attention. thats all they want.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: sam420]
    #8027683 - 02/15/08 02:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm getting bored of making the same post about America and guns every month when there's a school shooting.

Constitution > children's lives.  No need to explain I get it



I hope you arnt being sarcastic.

Do you seriously think if guns were banned criminals could not get them.:rofl:  They would be the only ones with guns. And yes Constitution>childrens lives.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8027858 - 02/15/08 03:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I hope you arnt being sarcastic.

Do you seriously think if guns were banned criminals could not get them.:rofl:  They would be the only ones with guns. And yes Constitution>childrens lives.




100% agreed.


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Re: Several shot, details emerging [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8028553 - 02/15/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm getting bored of making the same post about America and guns every month when there's a school shooting.

Constitution > children's lives.  No need to explain I get it



I hope you arnt being sarcastic.

Do you seriously think if guns were banned criminals could not get them.:rofl:  They would be the only ones with guns. And yes Constitution>childrens lives.




i personally know 2 people that i could get black market guns from right now. theyre all over the place. criminals will always have guns. and even if you destroyed every gun and banned guns from being made, they would still be there. with average machinist skills and probably even below average, you could make one yourself. :shrug:


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